Fully Auto AR

[CA Marine]

Just wondering is it even possible for someone to own/use a fully automatic AR in California with the proper license? If so, what type of license would that be?

[rromeo]

It's possible but not likely. I think the stamps mainly go to movie companies.

[CSDGuy]

What you're referring to is a "Machine Gun Permit." If you want to own one personally as opposed to possessing a machine gun for military/LE sales, you're looking at a VERY rare permit. Only 3 people in California have such a permit. Sales-related permits are much more common but you do not personally own the machine gun.

"Entertainment" permits are also possible, but even then, you don't personally own the machine gun - your business does for the purpose of supplying them to the entertainment industry.

[RRichie09]

What you're referring to is a "Machine Gun Permit." If you want to own one personally as opposed to possessing a machine gun for military/LE sales, you're looking at a VERY rare permit. Only 3 people in California have such a permit. Sales-related permits are much more common but you do not personally own the machine gun.

"Entertainment" permits are also possible, but even then, you don't personally own the machine gun - your business does for the purpose of supplying them to the entertainment industry.

What about people who legally owned machine guns before all of the laws? Did they have to sell, turn in their guns?

[hcbr]

ditto on what these calgunners have said, you're looking at something that's practically impossible to own/get/ legally permissible.

[slick_711]

Enlist in the Marines.

For all realistic purposes, it is not possible in CA at this time. It is possible in other states, but even then a full auto AR or M16 will cost you well over $10k for the receiver or RDIAS alone. Probably around $20k for a Colt receiver.

[CSDGuy]

What about people who legally owned machine guns before all of the laws? Did they have to sell, turn in their guns?

They'd be in the same boat as the people that never registered their assault weapons that were legally owned prior to the CA ban.

[RRichie09]

They'd be in the same boat as the people that never registered their assault weapons that were legally owned prior to the CA ban.

And there was no registration period for machine guns since you need a permit to own one? Wow, talk about f'ed up.

[dieselpower]

Enlist in the Marines.

For all realistic purposes, it is not possible in CA at this time. It is possible in other states, but even then a full auto AR or M16 will cost you well over $10k for the receiver or RDIAS alone. Probably around $20k for a Colt receiver.

I think the Colts are cheaper,... more of them. M16s were $9K last I saw...like 10 years ago...LOL.

If you want to do this plan on spending major cash. It is possible, just expensive. I know a guy who bought an old Post Office building because he was a stamp collector. If you are that into guns..it is possible to get full auto in CA...like I said its expensive. If your garage doesn't have a $150K car in it....don't bother asking me how.... LOL

[T.O.M.]

Enlist in the Marines.

For all realistic purposes, it is not possible in CA at this time. It is possible in other states, but even then a full auto AR or M16 will cost you well over $10k for the receiver or RDIAS alone. Probably around $20k for a Colt receiver.

Just wondering, but do Marines have firearm privileges outside? Or were you talking about inside duty etc. ?

[slick_711]

And there was no registration period for machine guns since you need a permit to own one? Wow, talk about f'ed up.

I don't think that's how it went down, but I don't know... CA would have had to give some window for registration, perhaps the same registration required for any other "assault weapon?" I know of a few guys in CA that have MGs, so they were grandfathered somehow.

I think the Colts are cheaper,... more of them. M16s were $9K last I saw...like 10 years ago...LOL.

That makes sense, but Colt also commands a premium so who knows. I've never been in a financial position to seriously consider buying one, but last time I looked out of curiosity the "off-brand" receivers, RDIAS, and Colt conversions were around $10-15k and honest to God Colt M16s were $20k+.

Full auto is a lot of fun to shoot, but it only really serves a purpose as a toy or an investment, and in CA the hassle negates it's real value as an investment. It isn't really practical for defensive uses (as a Marine I'm sure you know this), and your ammo costs will quickly grow to surpass what you spent on the rifle.

Just wondering, but do Marines have firearm privileges outside? Or were you talking about inside duty etc. ?

I was never a Marine, I couldn't tell you. I was just directing a joke to the OP based on his screenname. My understanding is that their use of FA is limited in training, as it is not a very effective way to shoot nor is it ammo efficient. I know in the USAF we *rarely* got a chance to use our fun switches. Furthermore, few units are issued A1 lowers these days, so it would be 3 round burst not full auto. A more realistic suggestion if you want to base your career on your shooting hobby is SWAT in a large PD. I know a number of SWAT cops in CA that have take home M4s, Colt Commandos, or MP5s.

[dieselpower]

its funny...you are paying $20,000 for a hole

now thats classic

[Cokebottle]

And there was no registration period for machine guns since you need a permit to own one? Wow, talk about f'ed up.

Considering that the NFA was passed in 1934, I don't think there were very many people who had MG's without the proper paperwork by the time California increased it's restrictions.

[glocklover]

^^^sounds like marriage!!!



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[lelandEOD]

It's a tax stamp; not a permit.