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  • OHW
    Member
    • Feb 2009
    • 386

    Another OAL question.

    My understaning is that a thread-on flash hider does not count in OAL legal measurement.

    The biggy is how about a screw attached stock pad? Or ever a slip-cover limb-saver stock pad?

    My rifle appeasrs to be under 30 3/8" without taking off the FH to be sure. Cutting it very close if the 1" stock does not count.
    Last edited by OHW; 02-19-2011, 9:35 AM.
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    ke6guj
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    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Nov 2003
    • 23725

    Originally posted by OHW
    My understaning is that a thread-on flash hider does not count in OAL legal measurement.

    The biggy is how about a screw attached stock pad? Or ever a slip-cover limb-saver stock pad?
    why wouldn't a thread-on flash hider or stock pad (screw attached or slip-on) count towards OAL?

    I think you are mixing up OAL requirements with barrel length requirements (where a flash-hider must be permanently attached if you need to help "make length")
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    • #3
      rromeo
      Calguns Addict
      • Sep 2009
      • 6981

      A thread on flash hider counts for California 30" OAL, it does not count for a 16" minimum barrel.
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      (Revised Eastern Sect Edition)

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      • #4
        Rukus
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2009
        • 2387

        Originally posted by rromeo
        A thread on flash hider counts for California 30" OAL, it does not count for a 16" minimum barrel.
        There you go.
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        • #5
          OHW
          Member
          • Feb 2009
          • 386

          Originally posted by Rukus
          There you go.
          Not really.

          Still need to know about stock add-ons. I have a 1" rubber buttpad. Does it count for OAL? What if the pad is a slip-on , like a limb-saver?

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          • #6
            Rukus
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2009
            • 2387

            Pretty much anything attached to your stock will count for OAL. I've read of some AK builders attaching the bayonet to keep OAL for folding stocks. Just keep in mind that anything that is "slip-on" may readily come off in the "not-so-gentle" hands of an unscrupulous LEO who is looking to bust you.

            Just out of curiosity, what type of rifle do you have that is so close to the length requirement?
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            • #7
              OHW
              Member
              • Feb 2009
              • 386

              Originally posted by Rukus
              Pretty much anything attached to your stock will count for OAL. I've read of some AK builders attaching the bayonet to keep OAL for folding stocks. Just keep in mind that anything that is "slip-on" may readily come off in the "not-so-gentle" hands of an unscrupulous LEO who is looking to bust you.

              Just out of curiosity, what type of rifle do you have that is so close to the length requirement?
              I'm sure that same dishonest XXX could rip off the screw-on pad.

              It is a m-forgery with ACE entry stock and 16' barrel. Just over 32" with FH and butt pad.

              The reason for this is , I'm thinking of a rebarrell 14.5" with pinned FH to get right down to 30.oooooooo1"
              Last edited by OHW; 02-19-2011, 6:52 PM.

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              • #8
                CHS
                Moderator Emeritus
                CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                • Jan 2008
                • 11338

                Stock pad is no problem. Definitely adds length to OAL.
                Please read the Calguns Wiki
                Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes...Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.
                --Cesare, Marquis of Beccaria, "On Crimes and Punishment"

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                • #9
                  Ak707
                  Senior Member
                  CGN Contributor
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 503

                  I don't understand why anyone would want a 14.5" barrel if they just have to attach a flash hider or something to make it 16"
                  Someone enlighten me please.!

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                  • #10
                    shark92651
                    Vendor/Retailer
                    • Oct 2006
                    • 5431

                    Originally posted by Ak707
                    I don't understand why anyone would want a 14.5" barrel if they just have to attach a flash hider or something to make it 16"
                    Someone enlighten me please.!
                    Because a 14.5" barrel + a 1.5" flash-hider = 16"
                    but a 16" barrel + a 1.5" flash-hider = 17.5"

                    It's a full 1.5" shorter, yet still legal as long as the overall length is 30". I suppose you could go with a 16" barrel and just a thread protector, but then you lose the benefit of the muzzle device.
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