Your opinion on best AR muzzle brakes

[Kestryll]

You're recommending the PWS Flash Suppressing Compensator for my featureless build?

No thank you.

While I'm sure it works admirably, it's pretty much universally accepted that it is a flash suppressor.

Yup! I'd recommend it.

Per PWS' web site:

All of the FSC Series muzzle devices have been classified as a non-flash suppressing device by the BATFE, thus removing any restriction from assault weapon ban states or provinces. See the BATFE document here.

It seems to me that a muzzle device with a letter from BATFE stating it is NOT a flash suppressor is safer than one that does not have a letter from BATFE.

[civilsnake]

Yup! I'd recommend it.

Per PWS' web site:



It seems to me that a muzzle device with a letter from BATFE stating it is NOT a flash suppressor is safer than one that does not have a letter from BATFE.

Wuuuuuuuuuuut??? I had never seen that before. Rowdy.

But even though BATFE says it's GTG, does that protect me from CDOJ?

[Kestryll]

Wuuuuuuuuuuut??? I had never seen that before. Rowdy.

But even though BATFE says it's GTG, does that protect me from CDOJ?

I can't say whether it will appease CA DOJ or not, it seems like they are an entity unto themselves sometimes, but I'd be willing to bet if it ever came down to it in court a letter from the BATFE Firearms Technology Branch would be one hell of a trump card.

In fact I am betting on it, I have that comp on my chopped Mini-14.

The problem CA DOJ is going to have is the incredibly vague description of a 'flash hider'.
It can be argued that according to the wording of the law sunglasses tied to the stock qualify in the DOJ's eyes as a 'flash hider'.
In most things not specifically defined or covered by State law CA defers to Federal law and definition.

[OHW]

I tried the phantom and was blinded in the night. Switched to a RRA tactical brake which has ports to the sides only. No dust cloud from prone or night flash in you sight picture.

[Outta Control]

I can't say whether it will appease CA DOJ or not, it seems like they are an entity unto themselves sometimes, but I'd be willing to bet if it ever came down to it in court a letter from the BATFE Firearms Technology Branch would be one hell of a trump card.

In fact I am betting on it, I have that comp on my chopped Mini-14.

The problem CA DOJ is going to have is the incredibly vague description of a 'flash hider'.
It can be argued that according to the wording of the law sunglasses tied to the stock qualify in the DOJ's eyes as a 'flash hider'.
In most things not specifically defined or covered by State law CA defers to Federal law and definition.

+1

Mine is on the right and I have a Vltor (similar to the left one) for sale if you like.

[sevensix2x51]

While I do like the BC, they mention on the site that it reduces flash. Videos do show it as compared to a thread protector, and it appears to reduce flash there. It's in the zone where it could be problematic, and I don't want to be the test case. You're right that it certainly doesn't LOOK like a flash suppressor, but if it does it does.

the folks at battlecomp are in san francisco, and they specifically market it as a compensator for the sole purpose of avoiding it being triggered as a flash suppressor. ive spoken with capt nick over there, and the other guys have posted on m4c that they have confirmation from CaDOJ that the device is a comp, and not a flash hider. i dont have a letter in my hand, but i think its pretty safe.

http://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=55210&page=3

[dfletcher]

I can suggest what to NOT get - don't get the AAC single chamber brake and don't get the Miculik. Each creates a heck of a "flash bang" thump and the AAC is by far the worse of the two. I have one on a Mini 14 and a Robinson 96, love 'em but noisy. And that shows how subjective the whole thing is, I note one poster said the Miculik was quiet. Everybody's different I suppose.

[civilsnake]

the folks at battlecomp are in san francisco, and they specifically market it as a compensator for the sole purpose of avoiding it being triggered as a flash suppressor. ive spoken with capt nick over there, and the other guys have posted on m4c that they have confirmation from CaDOJ that the device is a comp, and not a flash hider. i dont have a letter in my hand, but i think its pretty safe.

http://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=55210&page=3

I know the letter you're talking about, but all it says is "CA legal muzzle break". That doesn't necessarily mean that it's kosher on a featureless build. I would need to see that stated in a letter if I'm gonna drop $150.

[himurax13]

I love this "Muzzle Break", it certainly draws a crowd.

http://www.armamentsales.com/enhancers.htm

[odysseus]

I run both a DPMS Miculek & a JP Ent Bennie Cooley and both work excellent. No extra noise coming from either one. I'd even say the Miculek is slightly quieter than the A2 birdcage.
JP Enterprises Bennie Cooley-

I will add that despite not putting one of the newer fairly expensive "tactical" brakes out there, the same JP Bennie Cooley I have on one featureless just is all business.

[HK Dave]

I love this "Muzzle Break", it certainly draws a crowd.

http://www.armamentsales.com/enhancers.htm

LOL

[scootle]

the folks at battlecomp are in san francisco, and they specifically market it as a compensator for the sole purpose of avoiding it being triggered as a flash suppressor. ive spoken with capt nick over there, and the other guys have posted on m4c that they have confirmation from CaDOJ that the device is a comp, and not a flash hider. i dont have a letter in my hand, but i think its pretty safe.

http://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=55210&page=3

yeah, i think BC has gone out of their way to make sure it's CA legal... moreso since they are based in CA...

however, since you are trying for a featureless setup, it might be better to err on the side of caution.

i haven't installed my BC 1.0 yet... i'm really curious how much louder the BC is vs the A2 birdcage i have now.

[mattt]

The best brake is the one you mall ninjas dont install and shoot at the 50 yard line

[rareair]

I love this "Muzzle Break", it certainly draws a crowd.

http://www.armamentsales.com/enhancers.htm

[killshot44]

The best brake is the one you mall ninjas dont install and shoot at the 50 yard line

Ha ha ha, it hurts 'cause it's the truth! (they're also rockin' 30/10 mags shooting at 8" Shoot N Cs)

Seriously though, OP, Battlecomp................ GTG Featureless.