1st Featureless Conversion

[GettoPhilosopher]

So....in anticipation of the upcoming conquering of the "high capacity" magazine law, I did my first featureless conversion. Sold a Burris FastFire to fund the parts.

Swapped out my MIAD grip for a FDE Monsterman grip, removed the A2 birdcage, swapped out my RVG for an AFG (yeah, it's a Magpul build. You don't like it, move along ), and pinned the MOE stock. Last part was easy....simply drilled a 1/8" hole through the stock and the buffer tube rib (at a spot where it was simply metal, right before the first selection hole), put a bolt through, and tightened down the nut.

YHM Phantom Brake, Magpul trigger guard, and Magpul MBUS rear sight to follow, once I get paid. Hopefully I can buy some 30rd Pmags soon!






(Yes, that's a yellow paperclip holding my trigger guard in. I don't want to put a roll pin when I'm just gonna swap it out later. ;P)

[DannyInSoCal]

Kool

[JaeOne3345]

Welcome to the club.

Looks good, but next time I'd use a roll pin instead for the stock.

Check this out: (shows an acs and a moe/ctr)

http://www.northeastshooters.com/vbulletin/threads/83883-How-to-pin-a-Magpul-ACS-Stock

Someone is gonna be here any second to tell you that your AFG is a gray area and can be grasped with a pistol style hold.

[GettoPhilosopher]

I'm not terribly worried about the AFG or the screw. It's not a collapsing stock and won't be unless you were to disassemble it. And didn't someone post a letter from BATFE saying the fed doesn't consider it a foregrip?

Welcome to the club.

Looks good, but next time I'd use a roll pin instead for the stock.

Check this out: (shows an acs and a moe/ctr)

http://www.northeastshooters.com/vbulletin/threads/83883-How-to-pin-a-Magpul-ACS-Stock

Someone is gonna be here any second to tell you that your AFG is a gray area and can be grasped with a pistol style hold.

[NapaCountyShooter]

I'm not terribly worried about the AFG or the screw. It's not a collapsing stock and won't be unless you were to disassemble it. And didn't someone post a letter from BATFE saying the fed doesn't consider it a foregrip?

BATFE said that it isn't a foregrip on a maglocked AR pistol. Nothing about featureless. CADOJ hasn't cleared it. It's on you, but I subscribe to better safe than sorry when it comes to felonies...

[GettoPhilosopher]

BATFE said that it isn't a foregrip on a maglocked AR pistol. Nothing about featureless. CADOJ hasn't cleared it. It's on you, but I subscribe to better safe than sorry when it comes to felonies...

Right, I couldn't type that much on mobile. ><

My thought is that if BATFE says it's not a foregrip for a maglocked pistol, it seems reasonable and safe to assume a similar standard by CA DOJ standards. That being said, i'm thinking of writing them to ask specifically....though I'm assuming there's a good chance someone already has?

[westsiderippa]

you did not mention the most important part, did you toss that BB? im sure you did but since you didn't mention it i thought i'd through it out there.

looks really nice. after i built mine i would just sit there and push that mag release over and over, haha.

bring on the work around!!!!!!!!!

[morfeeis]

Right, I couldn't type that much on mobile. ><

My thought is that if BATFE says it's not a foregrip for a maglocked pistol, it seems reasonable and safe to assume a similar standard by CA DOJ standards. That being said, i'm thinking of writing them to ask specifically....though I'm assuming there's a good chance someone already has?

reasonable and BATFE just dont go together, i say until they directly say its not a foregrip on a featureless build i'll stay away.

[Grumpyoldretiredcop]

reasonable and BATFE just dont go together, i say until they directly say its not a foregrip on a featureless build i'll stay away.

ATFE isn't who you have to worry about. They couldn't care less about CA AW laws. It's the CA DOJ that cares about "features" on a "featureless" build. California law, not Federal. CA DOJ isn't known for their deep understanding of the word "reasonable", either.

Nice setup, GettoPhilosopher.

[Databyter]

So, removing those evils gets you what exactly?

No need for BB?

[westsiderippa]

So, removing those evils gets you what exactly?

No need for BB?

exactly!!!!

and allows you to use your legally possessed +10 round mags.

[JaeOne3345]

I'm not terribly worried about the AFG or the screw. It's not a collapsing stock and won't be unless you were to disassemble it. And didn't someone post a letter from BATFE saying the fed doesn't consider it a foregrip?

I'm not questioning how permanent the stock modification is. I was just thinking it would look a bit more refined than a wood/drywall screw look.(I know ..function over form...but you have a nice rifle). Before I switched to a fixed a1 length vltor I had a pinned ACS as shown in the link.

[mdhpper]

Looks good.

[Foriegn power]

(Just wanted to ask you featureless guys, doesn't the grip feel like crap?)(I mean wouldn't it be better just to get a mini 14,m 14 style rifle instead so your thumb could wrap around the grip?)

[Exile Machine]

...wouldn't it be better just to get a mini 14,m 14 style rifle instead so your thumb could wrap around the grip?

There are featureless products for the AR-15 that let you wrap your thumb around the grip. Don't want to start another AR-15 vs Mini 14 war but there's no need to give up the advantages of the AR-15 just to get a wrap-around grip.