PS74 Multical update

[NSR500]

I just can no longer be the only guy behind solid works everyday. It killed me to be at Shot Show knowing design was going to be at a stand still until I returned.

Seriously... I'm genuinely curious as to why you feel the need to market something that does not exist in ready for retail market form?
Before the ACR came out, Magpul had a solid model, and then functioning firearm to show. It took several years to hit the market with a lot of internet chatter and anticipation. When the damn gun was licensed to the Freedom Group and produced by Bushmaster, people got rubbed the wrong way with the final product and price. Look at how people feel about the ACR now.
Until you guy(s) have something to sell, stay off the internet, seriously. Many of us here are sick of your "Marketing Efforts". If you ever produce your PS47 you may find that your audience is gone and no longer interested in anything you have.

[MrPlink]

2 working prototypes?
Pix or it didn't happen, and CAD for dummies (ms paint) won't cut it

[NSR500]

Thinking about this some more...

If you're really serious, put your money where your mouth is. Contact Kestryll and sign up as an official Calguns vendor/sponsor. Otherwise you're just another anonymous person on a keyboard yanking everybody's chain with your pipe dream.

[Merc1138]

We went to Shot Show to identify which 3rd party components we will be using in the T&E phase. Our biggest hurtle at this point is getting the gun down to the 1000 price point without compromising in its components. fortunately we left Shot Show with solid deals from some of the key parts companies, and strong interest from others who are giving us their products to Test & Evaluate on the PS74 with hopes that their stuff ends up as part of the final system.

Currently we have 2 functioning prototypes. Both are multi-caliber firing 9mm 5.56. 7.62r 7.62nato.

While we spend the time we need with 3rd party T&E we will be releasing a unique PS-AR upper/lower set. A limited run of these will available in the next couple months and will be a glimpse into what is to come.

Wait, you had to go to SHOT show to figure out what third party components to test with? Like what, pistol grips and muzzle brakes? Come on. If you're just doing basic testing to get something that physically exists, the other stuff doesn't matter. You claim to have two working prototypes, show pictures of those then. At this point all you guys have done is market vaporware with nothing tangible to show for it. If you actually showed people something, you guys wouldn't be getting such a negative reception. Like I said earlier, ideas can be a good thing, but at the same time anyone here can come up with ideas. You seem to have jotted down a wishlist of things you want to do, but don't actually have anything.

Oh, and another thing. You seem to have not addressed my concerns about your airsoft mode/mod/whatever you want to call it. What happens when someone takes this lower of yours(which I'm assuming has a serial number and would be considered the firearm), and sticks an airsoft upper on it and finds themselves arrested by some local PD because they went to the local airsoft field with it? Not to mention the other inherent idiocies involved with mixing toy guns and real firearms. I was raised with both as a kid, and knew what a real firearm could do, and treated my toys as toys, and firearms as firearms, by adding airsoft you're developing a product that is both. Now while I'm not one to start screaming about possibilities that may or may not happen, it still just seems dumb. It's not as if m4 style(or whatever) airsoft guns are hard to come by for under $200.

[NSR500]

IMO... More and more BS!

They/He just registered his domain in December of 2010. He has no legit email address except for a Gmail Account. He and his buddy "Group Picture" have no avatars, no bios, or anything in their profile. You can only go to SHOT in several capacities related to the Industry.

So... If you ain't going to show the guns/prototypes, then show your credentials, Peja. You don't even have any trace of your other identity of "Peja Design" from your registrant information.

Until you do, this is just an elaborate tr0lling! It's time for you to put up, or shut up...

Magpul can barely get a product to market on time and you expect to have a SHOT 2010 ready Rifle, Pistol, Shotgun, and Launcher!

[Merc1138]

IMO... More and more BS!

They/He just registered his domain in December of 2010. He has no legit email address except for a Gmail Account. He and his buddy "Group Picture" have no avatars, no bios, or anything in their profile. You can only go to SHOT in several capacities related to the Industry.

So... If you ain't going to show the guns/prototypes, then show your credentials, Peja. You don't even have any trace of your other identity of "Peja Design" from your registrant information.

Until you do, this is just an elaborate tr0lling! It's time for you to put up, or shut up...

Magpul can barely get a product to market on time and you expect to have a SHOT 2010 ready Rifle, Pistol, Shotgun, and Launcher!

Yeah... other companies can get away with announcing just specs or releasing just a basic render of something, if they've already got products on the market. They're using the fact that they've already produced products, as a sort of backing to their claims about new things. You have no claims to previous products at all.

Also, those companies act as businesses. What's your name, and same for that group picture guy? What's the address of your office? What companies have you done design work for in the past? Are there any major projects before that you've been a part of? If I were a vendor of services, like milling items, forging blanks, whatever, how would I contact you to conduct a business transaction for my services? What if I like your ideas and want to invest, how do I get in touch with you?

When I see other companies developing products and discussing it on forums, they aren't hiding their business from us. Some of those folks have been on calguns. Usually it goes something like "Hi, this is Mark mother****in' LaRue, this is my company, you can get a hold of me via the contact info on the website, here's our ****, buy it"(I'm paraphrasing). Even at such an early stage as you guys appear to be, there are far better ways to conduct yourselves, but you need to figure that out. People are giving you so much negative crap because from the posts you guys have made on this forum, no one knows if you're serious, or if you're some highschool kids screwing around.

[evidens83]

I don't know why everybody is still even bothering with this troll. He's just another high school kid like Gecko that gets satisfaction from stupid threads like this that get great exposure. Stop feeding the troll!!!

[NSR500]

I don't know why everybody is still even bothering with this troll. He's just another high school kid like Gecko that gets satisfaction from stupid threads like this that get great exposure. Stop feeding the troll!!!

Sometimes you have to use more gas, or explosives to kill the fire.

[Merc1138]

I don't know why everybody is still even bothering with this troll. He's just another high school kid like Gecko that gets satisfaction from stupid threads like this that get great exposure. Stop feeding the troll!!!

I can only dream to participate in something as epic as a Gecko45 thread.

[KaLiFORNIA]

I can only dream to participate in something as epic as a Gecko45 thread.

+1 LOL, Gecko 45

[Steve1968LS2]

Feeding trolls only encourages trolls.. just sayin..

[freonr22]

I like their/the trolling. at least it is original. bring on more...

[Hunter4life1990]

what the fook is a PS74?

[Merc1138]

what the fook is a PS74?

A battery operated lower that shoots 5.56, 7.62x39, .308, .50bmg, airsoft pellets, and lawn darts.

Ok, I made up the lawn darts part, but everything else is what they've claimed, and they've shown us pics drawn in MS paint.

[xenophobe]

Plus I hope to have a shotgun a pistol and a launcher by Shot Show 2012 and i cant do it all alone.

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