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  • moleculo
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2010
    • 946

    Help - AR Build problem :(

    I started my build with the stuff I picked up at Riflegear. And then this happened:





    Yes, I was using the proper roll pin punch.

    Now what?
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  • #2
    Recession
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2010
    • 1565

    Judging by the way the roll pin is flared out, looks like you were using a punch that was too small.

    Lock your lower receiver in a vice clamp, get a pair of pliers and tape off the surface of it as not to scratch anything, get a good firm grip on that roll pin, pull like your life depended on it, get a new roll pin and try again.

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    • #3
      moleculo
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2010
      • 946

      Judging by the way the roll pin is flared out, looks like you were using a punch that was too small.
      Perhaps, but I was using the 3/32 punch supplied with this kit: http://www.riflegear.com/p-806-rifle...lders-kit.aspx
      Those acting in the public interest assume obligations of accountability and transparency. Retroactively redefining goals while claiming yet refusing to disclose some "master plan" is just the opposite. So is viciously trashing anyone who questions your judgment. -navyinrwanda

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      • #4
        Backcountry
        Member
        • Sep 2008
        • 427

        You should have oiled the pin.
        NSDQ

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        • #5
          comblock
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2010
          • 1318

          Pull it out and get a new one. Maybe ace hardware may have it.

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          • #6
            Noobert
            Veteran Member
            • Jan 2009
            • 3342

            Pull the pin and start over. You'll have better luck with the next pin
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            • #7
              Noobert
              Veteran Member
              • Jan 2009
              • 3342

              Check here for pin sizes
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              • #8
                NYY
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2010
                • 1877

                ur fine dont sweat. mine is a lil bit messed up at the end too but not much. Just get a new one. You learn from mistakes like these!

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                • #9
                  Wicked K5
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 830

                  Originally posted by Backcountry
                  You should have oiled the pin.
                  That's what I did on mine. I even went as far as to lightly sand down the leading edge of the roll pins to get them started nice & easy.

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                  • #10
                    EasyE
                    Member
                    • Aug 2010
                    • 213

                    oh god...yeah that was the worst part of installing my lpk. Lots of cursing and a few urges to huck my lower against the wall...

                    I was using all the wrong tools too. I am not even going to say what I was using... I kind of smashed up the end of the pin a bit but it finally went in flush, and i just took a sharpie to the little bit of exposed metal on the end of the roll pin....

                    I ended up buying a punch set though.

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                    • #11
                      tacticalcity
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Aug 2006
                      • 10916

                      You tried to HE-MAN it when it wasn't going in instead of figuring out why it wasn't going it.

                      Not that it would have helped get the pin in straight, but when installing that pin I wrap the lower in a nice thick athletic sock (or two) to help prevent scratches. Works great! I also use an oversized punch on that pin right up until it is all but a hair from all the way in, then I switch to the correct size punch. The small punch causes flairing like you experienced and it causes a ton of slippage which scratches up the lower. Oiling up the pin would have helped it go in easier, but might cause slippage. However, if you wrap up the lower in a thick sock like I suggested you won't have as much to worry about. Patience and caution are your best friend.

                      Worst case, invest in a touch-up pen.
                      Last edited by tacticalcity; 01-14-2011, 2:31 PM.

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                      • #12
                        cmace22
                        Veteran Member
                        • Jan 2008
                        • 2717

                        Ive always used a pair of channel locks and never had an issue. Hammering cause too much deformation and opens up the chance of an mess see photos above. Channel locks provide a constant and steady pressure to the pin not sharp impacts like a hammer and punch.

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                        • #13
                          orangeglo
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Nov 2009
                          • 5818

                          Pull it out with pliers or punch it out from the opposite side.

                          Make sure you inspect the hole for damage.

                          When installing the next one take extra care that ALL holes are aligned. I like using a light hammer and a bunch of light taps. While checking alignment at critical points.

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                          • #14
                            Nobama4us
                            Member
                            • Feb 2009
                            • 217

                            It's ruined, I'll give you $10 for it. Actually if you are in Sacramento area I have all the punches and we can drive out from the other side and start over with a new one.

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                            • #15
                              gemini1
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 2230

                              Originally posted by cmace22
                              Ive always used a pair of channel locks and never had an issue. Hammering cause too much deformation and opens up the chance of an mess see photos above. Channel locks provide a constant and steady pressure to the pin not sharp impacts like a hammer and punch.
                              ^^ This. If you dont have a channel lock you can try a big long nose plier. I used the plier and after the pin went through, lightly tap the pin with a 2" nail (with the head against the pin) to sit it flush.

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