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  • Horer619
    Junior Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 37

    Preban AR Help!?

    Ok sorry if this question has been asked. I tried searching and couldnt find anything so dont get mad. I just bought a OLL w a bullet button for a build, my dad has a colt AR preban before '87 with hi cap mags that he no longer shoots. So can we trade lowers so ill have the cool preban gun and my bullet button lower can be collecting dust instead? thanks in advance!!
    If you masturbate and laugh super hard, cum shoots out your nose.
  • #2
    NapaPlinker
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2010
    • 965

    How about no scott!
    Pew Pew Pew.

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    • #3
      Full Clip
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Dec 2006
      • 10266

      I believe you can only shoot his AW if he is present (along with his registration).
      Same for using his full-cap mags.

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      • #4
        ADAM
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2008
        • 2497

        no your dad does not own pre ban colt.and no you cant swap lowers
        sigpic I said I didn"t have much use for one,didn"t say I didn"t know how to use it. MATTHEW QUIGLEY

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        • #5
          Turo
          Calguns Addict
          • May 2009
          • 5066

          Originally posted by Full Clip
          I believe you can only shoot his AW if he is present (along with his registration).
          Same for using his full-cap mags.
          This is assuming the AW is registered as an AW. If not, somebody's in a heap of trouble and should contact a lawyer ASAP.

          @ OP: If the Colt is a registered AW, the answer to your question is no. The lower is registered to your father forever and nobody else can own it unless he sells it out of state. If it's an unregistered AW, the answer is get a lawyer because you've got a felony sitting there collecting dust.
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          • #6
            Horer619
            Junior Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 37

            thanks guys. well that sucks, what about when he (god forbid) passes. what happens to the gun?
            If you masturbate and laugh super hard, cum shoots out your nose.

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            • #7
              707electrician
              Veteran Member
              • Dec 2010
              • 2889

              Originally posted by Horer619
              thanks guys. well that sucks, what about when he (god forbid) passes. what happens to the gun?
              Burry it with him
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              • #8
                X-NewYawker
                In Memoriam
                • May 2008
                • 5993

                Welcome to California.
                Don't expect it to change anytime soon...

                Get an apartment in Henderson Nevada and keep the rifle there.

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                • #9
                  Horer619
                  Junior Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 37

                  WOW i knew cali sucked but that is unreal. Thanks again for all the help!
                  If you masturbate and laugh super hard, cum shoots out your nose.

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                  • #10
                    Reductio
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2010
                    • 1923

                    Originally posted by 707electrician
                    Burry it with him
                    Eh, rather.... strip the gun down to the bare receiver, and turn just the serialized lower in. Rest of it's just parts, and parts are parts.
                    Originally posted by CSACANNONEER
                    Ah, the old "form over function" argument. I guess some people would rather be seen with a hot blonde who won't put out than with a "Neil 8" who will make you .

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                    • #11
                      Cyc Wid It
                      Veteran Member
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 4485

                      Also, don't use his mags in your BB build.
                      WTS all BNIB: Colt S70 Repro, HK45c, Gen4 G19

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                      • #12
                        B Strong
                        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                        CGN Contributor
                        • Feb 2009
                        • 6367

                        Originally posted by Horer619
                        Ok sorry if this question has been asked. I tried searching and couldnt find anything so dont get mad. I just bought a OLL w a bullet button for a build, my dad has a colt AR preban before '87 with hi cap mags that he no longer shoots. So can we trade lowers so ill have the cool preban gun and my bullet button lower can be collecting dust instead? thanks in advance!!
                        Unless that Colt was registered by your dad in both your names in the first round of AW registrations, it can't be done legally.

                        If the rifle is registered in your dad's name only, the two of you can go shooting, you can fire the rifle while you're at the range, but the two of you can't swap lowers. You could put your upper on his lower in his presence, but you two can't swap rifles.

                        If the rifle wasn't registered, contact a competent attorney.
                        The way some gunshop clerks spout off, you'd think that they invented gunpowder and the repeating rifle, and sat on the Supreme Court as well.
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                        • #13
                          Horer619
                          Junior Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 37

                          Originally posted by B Strong
                          Unless that Colt was registered by your dad in both your names in the first round of AW registrations, it can't be done legally.

                          If the rifle is registered in your dad's name only, the two of you can go shooting, you can fire the rifle while you're at the range, but the two of you can't swap lowers. You could put your upper on his lower in his presence, but you two can't swap rifles.

                          If the rifle wasn't registered, contact a competent attorney.
                          Its was registered so no lawyers needed, but what if we have the same name? Am i just reaching now or what?
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                          • #14
                            dieselpower
                            Banned
                            • Jan 2009
                            • 11471

                            When your dad becomes too old to shoot, you disassemble the RAW lower and move the stripped lower out of CA. He then sends a letter to CA DOJ stating such.

                            If you wait til he passes, they have grounds to force its destruction or surrender. I maybe wrong, talk to a probate lawyer if his family has the same rights and restrictions as he does. The DOJ COULD take the position, only he can legally remove the RAW from the state, and if you take possession after his death, even to remove it from the state, you are in violation of the law....

                            Once again talk to a lawyer. Keep in mind there is a school of thought stating only a Colt semi-automatic rifle can be an AW, a stripped lower doesnt meet that requirment in the law. HOLD on I am wrong on that...once a RAW always a RAW unless removed from the list, and the only way to do that is by moving the feature that placed it inside AW law...a Colt can only be removed from the state or destroyed. There is no way to remove "Colt" from the RAW.

                            If You had a OLL RAW, by simply removing the AW feature you can remove its RAW status. Colt is listed.
                            Last edited by dieselpower; 01-11-2011, 12:55 PM.

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                            • #15
                              Full Clip
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Dec 2006
                              • 10266

                              Originally posted by Horer619
                              Its was registered so no lawyers needed, but what if we have the same name? Am i just reaching now or what?
                              Good to hear, and way reaching. You're risking felony possession of an AW.
                              It's registered to him, not you.

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