the bullet button and home defense

[GutPunch]

The way I see it, I'm ****ed anyway I got with a Rifle.

I can go featureless but I'm still stuck using 10 round clips because I don't have any prebans. Yeah I don't have to use a BB but I'm swapping mags.

I can use the BB and fit tools on my PMAGs but I'm still swapping 10 rounds.

Personally I have a shotty and glock for home defense. The rifle is just for bench shooting and zombies until the laws are removed.

[KCDS]

practice to eliminate the target within 10 shots, oh and practice to fight w/ bayonet and buttstock too. that's pretty much you can do w/ the bullet button and 10rd mag.

[UserM4]

What I'm concerned more about is the aftermath. Although I have a variety of HD firearms, I'm worried that I might hesitate to use it when needed because of the possible litigation and loss of everything thereafter. It's almost like, do I live to lose everything I own or should I just die because either way I lose?

[xxINKxx]

The law allows wide latitude for self defense but it is hard to see exactly how it would apply here. If you simple keep an illegal firearm in you r house that is discovered as a result of shots bing fired in a home invasion than it seems that you would be in violation of the law. If your home was being broken into, and you had time to remove your bullet button and install a regular magazine release, and then there was some shooting and the police came, and you had a very good lawyer, you might get away with it. We have to be careful to not let Hollywood movies give us the impression that there is any realistic chance that we are going to need massive firepower in a break in. The odds are massively against the chance that you will ever need to use a gun to defend your home. The odds of needing to fire anywhere near 10 rounds is astronomically small. The odds of needing several 10 round (or 30 round) magazines is obviously even less likely.

Now don't misinterpret what I am writing here as me agreeing with our absurd California gun laws, I am just saying that this is an academic question, not a realistic one (the question of needing multiple magazines for home defense). Of course I personally think about this stuff all the time, but I just plain think too much. Now maybe if you live on the Mexican border where the drug gangs hand out, then possibly you could actually end up in some massive fire fight, but remember that unless you home is made of concrete, or your attackers are really bad shooters, you aren't likely to survive a massive firefight in your house.

+ 1..Majority of all the cases ive seen of having to use your weapon in a self defence situation, the burgler runs away with his tail between his leg as fast as possible after the first shot, or just a couple have been fired.

The chances of a full on stand off like your fighting saddam himself in the streets of bagdad are slim to none. Im pretty sure 10 rounds with a BB is more then enough fire power to scare off a group of crazies, and if you dont suck at shooting should be enough to get a well placed shot on the bad guy. Burglers dont stick around to fight to the death over your used tv

[tacticalcity]

+ 1..Majority of all the cases ive seen of having to use your weapon in a self defence situation, the burgler runs away with his tail between his leg as fast as possible after the first shot, or just a couple have been fired.

The chances of a full on stand off like your fighting saddam himself in the streets of bagdad are slim to none. Im pretty sure 10 rounds with a BB is more then enough fire power to scare off a group of crazies, and if you dont suck at shooting should be enough to get a well placed shot on the bad guy

This is absolutely the wrong mindset. If anything Hollywood teaches people to be less prepared not more. One shot one kill is common place in the movies, not so in real life and the good guys always hit what they are aiming and while the bad guys always miss. Your post falls right in line with the crowd that believes the mere sound of a pump shotgun will scare away the bad guys, or that there is no need to actually learn how to use the firearm they purchased because by some miracle they will rise to the occasion when needed. Good enough is never good enough. Plan for the absolute worst case, train for the absolute worst case, and then you will get through everything from the minor stuff to the extreme scenario. Assume the bad guy will just run away, and you end up a chalk outline.

A drug addict whacked out on meth or something along those lines makes for a very dedicated opponent. It is entirely conceivable that with that kind of pharmacological assistance 10 rounds would not be enough.

So a bullet button equipped AR is not your best bet for home defense. Don't get me wrong, I love my AR and train hard with it. And I am definitely not encouraging people to break the law here either. I am simply saying, find a better more realistic option that allows for instant magazine changes, and have more magazines handy. Odds are you will never need it, but we don't plan for the best case scenerio...we plan for the worst. That is how we get to live long enough to become grumpy old men.

[Uriah02]

Sad thing is the guys breaking in will all be running 30 rounders with no BB's. just sayin.

I highly doubt the typical BG does home invasions/robbery with an AR. Probabilty of them using an illegal weapon is high but but probably more likely that it is a stolen pistol or the sort.

To the OP, everytime someone uses a non-registered AW and then wants to claim self defense you erode what CGF is working towards. The reason we want to have these laws repealed/voided is because we are law abiding citizens, not because we are breaking the laws and want vindication.