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  • Q
    Calguns Addict
    • Aug 2006
    • 6277

    Would this be a long gun here? RPG 762x39

    would this be a legal long gun? no grip. no stock. check out the video. http://www.e-gunparts.com/DisplayAd....ductSKU=983620
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    Lateralus
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    CGN Contributor
    • Sep 2006
    • 2041

    legal? yes. remember, sb-23 only applies to semiauto rifles.

    would you wannna can 1200 bones for that pos? i know i would never do it
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    • #3
      bwiese
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Oct 2005
      • 27621

      From the RPG link I see, that could easily be considered a grenade launcher.

      In CA grenade launchers are a no-no whether or not they are mounted to a firearm

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      • #4
        adamsreeftank
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2006
        • 2244

        Isn't there also something about guns designed to look like other things being illegal in CA?

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        • #5
          383green
          Veteran Member
          • Jan 2006
          • 4328

          I don't see how it could be considered a grenade launcher. It doesn't launch a grenade; it is the grenade, and it goes in a separate RPG launcher. But it doesn't have a rocket motor, so there wouldn't be any launching going on.

          I wonder if it's unconventional enough to get ATF to rule that it's a C&R, even if it isn't over 25 years old?
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          • #6
            383green
            Veteran Member
            • Jan 2006
            • 4328

            Hmm, wait a minute. If it's 35" OAL, then it looks like the barrel must be under 16", judging by the chamber location and the barrel not even extending to the end of that unscrewable cone (which CA would probably call a flash hider... sigh). Would this make the device a pistol? SBR? AOW? Or just plain "none of the above"? And if it's none of the above, is it "legal since no laws address it" or "we'll arrest you now and decide what to call the gun later"?
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            • #7
              Q
              Calguns Addict
              • Aug 2006
              • 6277

              Originally posted by frontman605
              legal? yes. remember, sb-23 only applies to semiauto rifles.

              would you wannna can 1200 bones for that pos? i know i would never do it
              400 each seems like a good deal. I guess that's why they're sold out.



              Originally posted by bwiese
              From the RPG link I see, that could easily be considered a grenade launcher.

              In CA grenade launchers are a no-no whether or not they are mounted to a firearm
              grenade launcher possibly. not to mention it could be mistaken for a rpgrenade.



              Originally posted by 383green
              Hmm, wait a minute. If it's 35" OAL, then it looks like the barrel must be under 16", judging by the chamber location and the barrel not even extending to the end of that unscrewable cone (which CA would probably call a flash hider... sigh). Would this make the device a pistol? SBR? AOW? Or just plain "none of the above"? And if it's none of the above, is it "legal since no laws address it" or "we'll arrest you now and decide what to call the gun later"?
              Didn't think of the flashhider idea. Still I would panic if I saw that at a range. That video is pretty funny when he shoots the water jug kinda like the aliens in stargate.
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              • #8
                tyrist
                Veteran Member
                • Jun 2007
                • 4564

                I would say that falls under two different 12020 PC sections...One would be camoflauged firearm, the other would possibly be a dummy grenade since it has a grenade shell. In california I would not buy it unless you wish to risk two felony charges and a couple years in the penitentary.

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                • #9
                  NeoWeird
                  Veteran Member
                  • Dec 2005
                  • 3342

                  Except inert gernades are legal in California and most people think they are not because of stupid places like Sportsmansguide and CTD spreading lies.

                  As for the gun itself it is a single shot so the addition of a flash hider makes no sense, even if someone did want to call the cone a flash hider. The seller makes no mention of it being a NFA item so I will assume it is not (which includes SBRs). As pointed out it is 35" long and he unscrws roughly 10-12" from the bottom. That still leaves 23" of barrel in front of it, and there is no way that barrel sits back 7" from the tip of the cone.

                  So what you are left with is the easily identified as a weapon. Seeing as anyone who sees it would automatically assume it's a rocket, then I would say it IS easily identified as a weapon.

                  Now does my opinion matter? Not in the least. If you are really interested in it, pay the $100 to talk to an attorney about it or contact the DOJ and ask about it. Personally though, shooting it with a bulet tip seems lame to me and I wouldn't want it unless I had the launcher as well, which is illegal to own, and the whole process of loading it seems extra lame and the novelty would wear off after about 15 minutes.

                  Stil if you want it, what's stopping you? a $500 price tag instead of a $400 one? A phone call or letter?...
                  quemadmodum gladius neminem occidit, occidentis telum est. - Lucius Annaeus
                  a sword never kills anybody; it's a tool in the killer's hand.

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                  • #10
                    tyrist
                    Veteran Member
                    • Jun 2007
                    • 4564

                    inert grenades are legal if they are filled with a substance rendering them inert, of which the end of that rifle does not. I can pretty much guarantee if you brought the rocket rifle into california it would be treated like the flashlight shotguns, cellphone guns, and wallet guns I have seen.

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