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  • #16
    sleepur606
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2007
    • 1994

    When I'm thinking better about it, I keep my left (non-dominant) eye open. It takes work, especially when you have one eye looking at something 600 yards away through your regular eyesight and the other looking through the objective of a rifle scope.

    I've just learned to ignore what I see in my left eye. It's easier to try to ignore it than it is for me to try to comprehend what is going on in both eyes at once. I'm sure the better shooters can, essentially, see two different pictures through both eyes...I can't. I see one at a time depending on which eye I focus with.

    Oh, and I've never used a blinder. I can't do mall ninja and pirate at the same time.

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    • #17
      Moress
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2010
      • 712

      I think what I'm going to try is using the tape method on the safety glasses for the next few weeks. I'm hoping this will help my brain focus more on my right eye when I'm aiming down the sights.

      What I'm afraid of is that my brain will get so use to it, it will become a crutch. When I frist started shooting, no one really taught me anything. Everything I know I either learned by doing or from the intarwebs. What did you guys do to practice? Did you just go cold turkey and keep shooting with both eyes 'til you hit something or did you start off with the tape method and then took the training wheels off?
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      • #18
        scootle
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        CGN Contributor
        • Oct 2010
        • 2702

        I personally can't use irons with two eyes open either. I usually one-eye to find the sight picture then, if needed, open both eyes. That seems to work OK most of the time. Once I lose the sight picture though, I have to close my left eye again to re-acquire. I can't acquire the iron sight picture with both eyes open... just doesn't seem to work for me.

        I can shoot RDS or magnified optics fine with both eyes open though. In fact, RDS and reflex sights work best with both eyes open really.

        It really varies from person to person, I think.
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        • #19
          themailman
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2010
          • 2029

          I dont understand the OP's q. Open your eyes. I shoot 0-500, rapid and slow, w/both eyes open.

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          • #20
            Moress
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2010
            • 712

            Originally posted by themailman
            I dont understand the OP's q. Open your eyes. I shoot 0-500, rapid and slow, w/both eyes open.

            My question, how do you use both your eyes when you shoot, because when I use both my eyes, I can't aquire the sight picture at all. I can only shoot with one eye open.
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            • #21
              Moress
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2010
              • 712

              Originally posted by scootle
              I personally can't use irons with two eyes open either. I usually one-eye to find the sight picture then, if needed, open both eyes. That seems to work OK most of the time. Once I lose the sight picture though, I have to close my left eye again to re-acquire. I can't acquire the iron sight picture with both eyes open... just doesn't seem to work for me.

              I can shoot RDS or magnified optics fine with both eyes open though. In fact, RDS and reflex sights work best with both eyes open really.

              It really varies from person to person, I think.

              I can't even do that, I tried to squint one eye, then open the other after I aquire my sight picture, but the second I open the left eye, I completly lose it.
              Last edited by Moress; 12-15-2010, 9:49 PM.
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              • #22
                DREADNOUGHT78
                CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                CGN Contributor
                • Jan 2009
                • 4147

                If you keep both eyes open you'll see twice as good....LOL! Kinda shows why two eyes are better than one.



                From Trijicon's website.
                Bindon Aiming Concept Human vision is based upon a binocular (two eyes) presentation of visual evidence to the brain. The word binocular literally means using both eyes at the same time. We most often associate this word with binocular instruments such as field glasses or a binocular microscope. These instruments specifically strive to present the object to be viewed the same way to both eyes.

                Vision research material was examined for its assistance to understand the optically aided weapon aiming process. Three major types of optical enhancement were compared. There are strong customer preferences in reticle designs, some simple reticles enhance the speed of target acquisition, others allow for greater precision in a given time limit.


                The simple substitution of a bright red dot for the usual cross-hairs makes it very easy to keep both eyes open. Just as in the Single point or Armson O.E.G. sighting, the brain merges the two images. During dynamic movement, the scene through the telescope blurs because the image moves more rapidly due to magnification. The one eye sees the bright dot against the blurred target scene, so the brain picks the scene from the unaided eye. The shooter swings the weapon towards the target while perceiving the dot indicating where the weapon is pointed. As soon as the weapon begins to become steady in the target area, the brain switches to the magnified view.

                A long search was made to try to combine the speed and non-battery features of the Singlepoint or Armson with the precision of the telescopic system. This discovery was made several years ago. Trijicon has sponsored research in the field of human vision to better understand this generic phenomenon. Although the study concentrated on the Armson O.E.G., some aspects are applicable also to the Bindon Aiming Concept.

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                • #23
                  j4strngr
                  Member
                  • May 2010
                  • 347

                  You need to know which eye is dominant.... If you are a r rt hand lt eye guy you may have to adjust body position or shoot lt handed

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                  • #24
                    goodlookin1
                    Veteran Member
                    • Apr 2009
                    • 2557

                    For Red Dot Sights or Holographic Eotech type sights, you should ALWAYS have both eyes open. There's no use having one eye closed because you are limiting your peripheral vision and eradicating your depth perception. When using a non-magnified sight like said RDS's, you wont have a problem adjusting because it's just like normal vision: Both eyes are at true 1x. And when theyre both open, it should almost be like you're seeing the red dot in both eyes. For practice, try placing a cover on the front lens so you see nothing but black. Use your dominant eye to see the red dot, but use your non dominant eye for target acquisition. It's weird at first, but you get used to it. You have to train your brain to use one eye to see one thing, and the other eye to see another. Put both images together in your head on the fly and bam, you're using the "both eyes open" concept.

                    However, when you add magnification to the mix, like an ACOG, you still are supposed to have both eyes open: When you first aim in the general direction of your target, you take the reticle in the scope of your dominant eye and use that to **generally** center your target in the scope for fast acquisition. Then once the reticle's in the general vicinity of the target, you use your dominant eye to pinpoint the reticle exactly where you want it on your target, while utilizing the magnification of the scope for an enhanced picture for more accurate bullet placement.

                    o in a nutshell, initial acquisition: Use non-dominant eye for ranging/general vicinity and locating of target. For accuracy: Use dominant eye for exact reticle placement.

                    That's the best I can explain it.
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