OLL age requirement

[TheMechanic]

I am having an argument right now about the age requirement on a stripped OLL receiver.
I say that the stripped OLL is bought (in Kalifornia) as a rifle and the age requirement is 18. Another person says it is 21 because it could be made a rifle or a pistol.
This was my thought when I bought my last stripped OLL.
1. AR pistols are not legal in Kalifornia in the first place.
2. When a OLL is purchased it would be purchases as a rifle or as a pistol and not legally convertible between profiles.
3. He is saying that a receiver is considered "other" so it is classified as neither pistol or rifle.
Can anyone shed some light on this? I am an old geezer of 45 so I don't have to worry but I always want to give correct information. Any links to Kali law is greatly appreciated guys.
Danny

[MTran]

The other guy is right. It's not a long gun or a pistol, and only long guns may be purchased if you are under 21.

[shark92651]

The federal 4473 form says it is a "receiver" and you must be 21 to purchase. Just because the state of California makes it difficult for a non LEO to purchase a receiver as a pistol does not change how it is classified federally.

[AR-Ballistic]

Well the DROS classifies it a LONG GUN and you must be 18 to purchase a LONG GUN. So I would say 18.

[evidens83]

[TheMechanic]

So wouldn't I have had to have a BFSC to have made the purchase? I don't remember if I had shown it to my FFL when I bought mine a year or so ago.

[sevensix2x51]

iirc, the stripped lower receiver uses the checkbox marked "other long gun," and the fed as stated above carries the 21 year old age requirement.

ar pistols are legal in california, as long as they follow the assault weapons rules for pistols.

[shark92651]

Well the DROS classifies it a LONG GUN and you must be 18 to purchase a LONG GUN. So I would say 18.

I have a letter from the ATF, in which we asked for clarification on this topic, and that letter states otherwise. Even a completely built AR lower complete with buttstock is still sold as a "receiver" on the 4473. This was clarified a couple years ago.

[TheMechanic]

Would you have a law link? I have pretty strong google fu, but tonight it seems to be weak.

[AR-Ballistic]

Then I stand corrected.

I have a letter from the ATF, in which we asked for clarification on this topic, and that letter states otherwise. Even a completely built AR lower complete with buttstock is still sold as a "receiver" on the 4473. This was clarified a couple years ago.

[shark92651]

Then I stand corrected.

Yeah, a lot of FFL's were putting them down as long guns on the 4473 just a couple years ago but an update to the 4473 really spelled it out that was the wrong way to mark the form. There is a scan of the letter around here somewhere but cannot locate it right now. I'll attached to this thread if I locate it.

[TheMechanic]

Thank you. That was fast. I knew I came to the right place.

[i1800collect]

Yeah, a lot of FFL's were putting them down as long guns on the 4473 just a couple years ago but an update to the 4473 really spelled it out that was the wrong way to mark the form. There is a scan of the letter around here somewhere but cannot locate it right now. I'll attached to this thread if I locate it.

ETA: Here's a link to a thread from last month discussing age requirements for AR stripped/complete lowers: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s....php?p=5264245

[Cokebottle]

Well the DROS classifies it a LONG GUN and you must be 18 to purchase a LONG GUN. So I would say 18.

Doesn't matter what California says.
4473 is "other" and it is a federal law that you may not purchase anything but a "long gun" until 21.

A "cruiser" shotgun (pistol grip only) is a "long gun" on the DROS, but is "other" on the 4473, and you cannot buy one (in any state) unless you are at least 21.

[TheMechanic]

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?p=5264245[/url]

That link took me to this post


that sent me to this link and question 18 in section B

http://www.atf.gov/forms/download/atf-f-4473.pdf

that leads to the explaination at the bottom that indicated that the age is 21