Video - Man chased, gun down on busy street

[TreeHugger]

Gun control does work, he must have a bullet button installed, otherwise he would not dare to carry that around.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0vfytbqtZg

[Recession]

Yup, and that 10 day cooldown period sure prevented him from going out and doing something stupid with his new purchase.

*edit* yup, MAC10

[Mrskylinetou]

This is a big reason why I wanna become a cop

[Res]

I wonder what the "Iceman" did to tick that guy off

[Recession]

Why is it that everytime a gangster is gunned down by another gangster "he would never hurt anyone, he was a saint, he was a loving caring person, he would give yout the shirt off his back, he never had any enemies..."

Law abiding citizens don't have nicknames like "Iceman"

He was targeted because he did some bad things to some bad guys. People don't just randomly jump out of cars and start chasing people down the street with MAC10's.

[dlouie87]

"brotherhood market"

Ice man was his nickname maybe because he sold "ICE" on that corner....

[captbilly]

Florida does not have the same gun laws as California.

This happened in Florida where they have no bullet button or high capacity magazine restrictions. I get the point that this murder would have probably occurred regardless of the high capacity magazine restrictions or assault weapons regulations we have here in California. However, in this particular case, the victim may well have gotten away if the pistol had been limited to a 10 round magazine. The shooter was blasting away, not aiming worth a damm, and may well have run out of 10 rounds before hitting the victim. Obviously the shooter may well have obtained the gun illegally, but maybe not. In California he could not have obtained that magazine legally, and the victim may have gotten away.

Do I think that California's gun laws make sense, not at all, but this particular shooting would actually help make the case for limited capacity magazines, not the other way around. The real solution is that we need to find ways to keep guns out of the hands of criminals rather than out of the hands of good people who just like to have cool guns, or who believe that a gun is good for self protection. I don't pretend to know how to keep guns out of the hands of criminals, but as a gun owner I know that my future ability to own a gun depends on reducing gun violence. As we saw this week, with the introduction of Xray scanners for airline travelers, Americans are all too willing to give up their freedom for the appearance of security.

[Recession]

This happened in Florida where they have no bullet button or high capacity magazine restrictions. I get the point that this murder would have probably occurred regardless of the high capacity magazine restrictions or assault weapons regulations we have here in California. However, in this particular case, the victim may well have gotten away if the pistol had been limited to a 10 round magazine. The shooter was blasting away, not aiming worth a damm, and may well have run out of 10 rounds before hitting the victim. Obviously the shooter may well have obtained the gun illegally, but maybe not. In California he could not have obtained that magazine legally, and the victim may have gotten away.

Do I think that California's gun laws make sense, not at all, but this particular shooting would actually help make the case for limited capacity magazines, not the other way around. The real solution is that we need to find ways to keep guns out of the hands of criminals rather than out of the hands of good people who just like to have cool guns, or who believe that a gun is good for self protection. I don't pretend to know how to keep guns out of the hands of criminals, but as a gun owner I know that my future ability to own a gun depends on reducing gun violence. As we saw this week, with the introduction of Xray scanners for airline travelers, Americans are all too willing to give up their freedom for the appearance of security.

You are assuming that bad guys abide by the law, which 99.9% of the time they don't. For the sake of argument, let's say that the bad guy did purchase the gun legally. The first thing they would do is toss out the 10 round magazines that came with the gun and buy themselves some high cap rebuild kits and assemble them or have their homeboys ship it to them from out of state. Do they care if it is illegal or not? Most likely not, because they are probably already felons that have broken several laws in the past which are far worse than illegally obtaining high capacity magazines. Bad guys will obtain high cap mags regardless which state they reside in and what the laws there are.

[TreeHugger]

the victim may well have gotten away if the pistol had been limited to a 10 round magazine

Are u kidding me??? If that shooter would obey the 10 round mag law, he would not have shot the Iceman in the first place.

[BayAreaShooter]

Why is it that everytime a gangster is gunned down by another gangster "he would never hurt anyone, he was a saint, he was a loving caring person, he would give yout the shirt off his back, he never had any enemies..."

Law abiding citizens don't have nicknames like "Iceman"

He was targeted because he did some bad things to some bad guys. People don't just randomly jump out of cars and start chasing people down the street with MAC10's.

I agree completely. Every time someone gets shot they are completely innocent. While I do not wish dead on anyone (accept the taliban) I am sure there was a reason behind it. I was taught if you do not put yourself into a crap situation you will not be a victim of a crap situation. there are a few exceptions as some people do get randomly killed.

[21SF]

Screw the story... Omg!!! At captbilly

[BAGunner]

So sad to see another calgunner brain-washed by "liberals". Gun law only annoys/restricts law-abiding citizens, not criminals.

This happened in Florida where they have no bullet button or high capacity magazine restrictions. I get the point that this murder would have probably occurred regardless of the high capacity magazine restrictions or assault weapons regulations we have here in California. However, in this particular case, the victim may well have gotten away if the pistol had been limited to a 10 round magazine. The shooter was blasting away, not aiming worth a damm, and may well have run out of 10 rounds before hitting the victim. Obviously the shooter may well have obtained the gun illegally, but maybe not. In California he could not have obtained that magazine legally, and the victim may have gotten away.

Do I think that California's gun laws make sense, not at all, but this particular shooting would actually help make the case for limited capacity magazines, not the other way around. The real solution is that we need to find ways to keep guns out of the hands of criminals rather than out of the hands of good people who just like to have cool guns, or who believe that a gun is good for self protection. I don't pretend to know how to keep guns out of the hands of criminals, but as a gun owner I know that my future ability to own a gun depends on reducing gun violence. As we saw this week, with the introduction of Xray scanners for airline travelers, Americans are all too willing to give up their freedom for the appearance of security.

[Recession]

Screw the story... Omg!!! At captbilly

Yeah, I kind of when I saw his post. Hopefully he'll read over what he said and realize the error in his logic.

Criminals are criminals because they break the law. Just because 10 round magazines is the law, doesn't mean they will abide by it. If it's a law, they will break it.

[BoostedPenGuin]

This happened in Florida where they have no bullet button or high capacity magazine restrictions. I get the point that this murder would have probably occurred regardless of the high capacity magazine restrictions or assault weapons regulations we have here in California. However, in this particular case, the victim may well have gotten away if the pistol had been limited to a 10 round magazine. The shooter was blasting away, not aiming worth a damm, and may well have run out of 10 rounds before hitting the victim. Obviously the shooter may well have obtained the gun illegally, but maybe not. In California he could not have obtained that magazine legally, and the victim may have gotten away.

Just putting this out there.... I'm pretty sure if murder is on the agenda, the least of his worries are if his firearm is state compliant.


Gunmen as he wakes up in the morning:

"Gonna commit a murder today, gotta make sure my firearm is state compliant.
10 round magazine. Check.
Bullet Button. Check.
Firearm on safe list. Check. Now lets go kill someone. "

Who feeds the FUD to people like you? OUR GUN LAWS HAVE NO EFFECT ON CRIMINALS.

[straykiller]

This happened in Florida where they have no bullet button or high capacity magazine restrictions. I get the point that this murder would have probably occurred regardless of the high capacity magazine restrictions or assault weapons regulations we have here in California. However, in this particular case, the victim may well have gotten away if the pistol had been limited to a 10 round magazine. The shooter was blasting away, not aiming worth a damm, and may well have run out of 10 rounds before hitting the victim. Obviously the shooter may well have obtained the gun illegally, but maybe not. In California he could not have obtained that magazine legally, and the victim may have gotten away.

Do I think that California's gun laws make sense, not at all, but this particular shooting would actually help make the case for limited capacity magazines, not the other way around. The real solution is that we need to find ways to keep guns out of the hands of criminals rather than out of the hands of good people who just like to have cool guns, or who believe that a gun is good for self protection. I don't pretend to know how to keep guns out of the hands of criminals, but as a gun owner I know that my future ability to own a gun depends on reducing gun violence. As we saw this week, with the introduction of Xray scanners for airline travelers, Americans are all too willing to give up their freedom for the appearance of security.

what????? what person who is willing and is going to kill a person is going to be worried that his gun is in a legal configuration or not, what your saying make no sense, if he followed the laws in the first place he wouldn't be trying to shoot another person in the back.