Sub MOA .308 semi-auto possible for $1000-1500?

[Gundam]

I'm going to assume this list will be limited to completely AR's in .308. I know absolutely nothing about the subject, so I figured I'd ask you guys since my friend is interested. The only thing I know is that parts look like they are twice as expensive, and that there are 2 different styles of magazines? Please correct me if I'm wrong. Are there any out of the box solutions that will be accurate, or is it better to custom build?

[professionalcoyotehunter]

BAR .308 Best rifle you will ever own.

[Jonathan Doe]

Buy an M-1A loaded model and do a tragger job and glass bedding. It should give you a very good accuracy. My match M-1A has hit the same hole several time during matches from the distance of 200 to 600 yards.

[hefedehefe]

You can have a Saiga .308 too

[nukechaser]

I assume you mean "sub-MOA" at 100 yards?

MOA is one inch, per hundred yards. (1.0472 actually)

One minute-of-angle at 500 yards is 5 inches (basically). At 25 yards is it 1/4 inch. At 800 yards it is 8 inches.

So often, any rifle is much more accurate than the shooter and so many things figure into a rifle's accuracy: barrel, trigger-group, ammo used, sights used, shooter's technique, etc.

At what distance and for what type of shooting is your friend interested? This might steer some of the answers to help you out.

[Gundam]

You can have a Saiga .308 too

Didn't think the .308 saigas were that accurate....unless there are custom barrels available for it that I'm not aware of

[Gundam]

I assume you mean "sub-MOA" at 100 yards?

MOA is one inch, per hundred yards. (1.0472 actually)

One minute-of-angle at 500 yards is 5 inches (basically). At 25 yards is it 1/4 inch. At 800 yards it is 8 inches.

So often, any rifle is much more accurate than the shooter and so many things figure into a rifle's accuracy: barrel, trigger-group, ammo used, sights used, shooter's technique, etc.

At what distance and for what type of shooting is your friend interested? This might steer some of the answers to help you out.

Yes at 100 yards. Simply bench shooting but he also wants it to be good to go when the zombie apocalypse rolls around. Distance will probably be 600yards at the upper limit. And no, he refuses to touch the .223 round.

[professionalcoyotehunter]

They aren't. I have thrown potatoes with more accuracy.

[Hoop]

You can build one for that depending on what stock/trigger etc you want. You will end up near the upper end of your price range though or a little past it if you go the AR route but it's worth it.

You could also find a deal on a M1A loaded I have seen some for 1200ish but I perfer the AR ergonomics M1A stock doesn't really fit me that well.

[Gundam]

You can build one for that depending on what stock/trigger etc you want. You will end up near the upper end of your price range though or a little past it if you go the AR route but it's worth it.

You could also find a deal on a M1A loaded I have seen some for 1200ish but I perfer the AR ergonomics M1A stock doesn't really fit me that well.

I've always heard that the M1A is a 2-3 MOA rifle, and it takes a considerable amount of money to get their groupings under 1 MOA?

[Capita159]

Didn't think the .308 saigas were that accurate....unless there are custom barrels available for it that I'm not aware of

Even if you have a 1" match barrel on a Saiga308, the action will throw you off accuracy.

[Hoop]

I've always heard that the M1A is a 2-3 MOA rifle, and it takes a considerable amount of money to get their groupings under 1 MOA?

Well, yes and no. The loadeds I have seen all shot pretty well, MOA or close to it. If he just wants something out of the box and doesn't want to deal with bullet buttons etc then M1A is his best option.

He needs to figure out what platform he wants before he does anything else - AR is perfectly doable but make sure he understands he'll have to deal with bullet buttons etc.

[Jake71]

You can build one for that depending on what stock/trigger etc you want. You will end up near the upper end of your price range though or a little past it if you go the AR route but it's worth it.

You could also find a deal on a M1A loaded I have seen some for 1200ish but I perfer the AR ergonomics M1A stock doesn't really fit me that well.

Where/what would you pick for parts to assemble such a .308 AR?

I'm wanting a .308 as well and every time I found one it was over 1500.. as in 2-3k for one.

[Bongos]

impossible for that price range, the only semi before the current AR10 and Whitefeathers which is capable of doing MOA is the HK PSG1 and that was at least $9000 (do not know the current price... the $9K was in the late 1990's). Armilite AR10T were in the +$2000 range

[Hoop]

Where/what would you pick for parts to assemble such a .308 AR?

I'm wanting a .308 as well and every time I found one it was over 1500.. as in 2-3k for one.

It's not hard just have to limit yourself on what kind of stocks/triggers etc that you want. 1k for an upper and 500 for a lower can get you some stuff that's more than halfway decent. I have a DPMS SASS upper, CMMG 308 lower, A2 stock and RRA 2 stage trigger and the whole thing cost me 1635 tax ffl fees etc.

edit: you are right though it's easy to end up in the 2k's building one of these things.