DD 14.5 vs BCM 14.5

[Arias]

I have heard that the BCM 14.5 Middy is very soft shooting, while on the other hand I have not heard anything about the DD 14.5. Would any CG'ers care to comment of the recoil on the DD?

Yes, I know, .223/556 doesn't have the most kick, but I would like to know because, if you've not seen, smartgunner is having a smashing deal on DD uppers with lite rails.

14.5 Middy, 12" Lite rail, 1.5 Battlecomp pinned, w/ BCG & Charging handle is under $850 shipped

[civilsnake]

The "soft shooting" nature comes from being a mid gassed 14.5. It will be the same either way. $850 for all that seems like a decent price shipped.

[Recession]

What civilsnake said. The reason why it has a softer recoil is due to the mid length.

[civilsnake]

I would probably go for the 16in lightweight personally, with the 1.0 BattleComp. Same price, but you get a little extra push and no need to pin the comp.

[SuperSet]

I agree with civilsnake. 14.5" builds can be a pain to maintain due to the pinned comp.

[Arias]

I agree with civilsnake. 14.5" builds can be a pain to maintain due to the pinned comp.

I'm new to ARs so bear with me....

What would cause it to be a pain to maintain?

[SuperSet]

Some different opinions in this thread to help you make an informed decision:

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=359840&highlight=14.5

[i1800collect]

I'm new to ARs so bear with me....

What would cause it to be a pain to maintain?

It's not really maintenance issues you'll run into with a pinned muzzle device. The issues you'll run into is if you ever want to change the upper configuration (change out your handguard, change the muzzle device, etc), it'll be a pain to do.

[Arias]

Many thanks sir, people such as yourself make CG my goto forum

Some different opinions in this thread to help you make an informed decision:
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...highlight=14.5

[civilsnake]

Depending on the gas block and rail options, you may not be able to get them off without removing the comp. This would potentially preclude getting the barrel off as well. Realistically, though, maintenance isn't a huge concern when considering a pinned muzzle device. The standard cleaning stuff can be done just the same. It really can be a pain if you decide to change out gas blocks or rails down the line, though.

Bottom line, if you're happy with your rail setup, you're probably not going to have a problem. The reason I like 16' is that it doesn't add much weight, it only adds 1" (BC1.5 v. BC1.0) to the length, and you can change the muzzle device in the future without needing machining. If you wanted to go featureless, for instance, you may desire to change out that muzzle device, as some people are concerned that it qualifies as a flash hider. Also, the softer impulse of the 14.5 middy is due in part to the dwell time (length of barrel after the gas port); a 16 inch barrel does a pretty good job optimizing dwell time for a middy gas system. 14.5 is on the low end, and could potentially run into issues cycling certain ammo. Not likely, but something to consider.

[Arias]

The points you hit are one that I have considered. I really like the set-up, tons of real estate on the 12" rail. I really don't plan on going featureless. I do remember reading that CHF have a little longer life, and you know how everything you read on the internet is the end all truth

I appreciate the input

Depending on the gas block and rail options, you may not be able to get them off without removing the comp. This would potentially preclude getting the barrel off as well. Realistically, though, maintenance isn't a huge concern when considering a pinned muzzle device. The standard cleaning stuff can be done just the same. It really can be a pain if you decide to change out gas blocks or rails down the line, though.

Bottom line, if you're happy with your rail setup, you're probably not going to have a problem. The reason I like 16' is that it doesn't add much weight, it only adds 1" (BC1.5 v. BC1.0) to the length, and you can change the muzzle device in the future without needing machining. If you wanted to go featureless, for instance, you may desire to change out that muzzle device, as some people are concerned that it qualifies as a flash hider. Also, the softer impulse of the 14.5 middy is due in part to the dwell time (length of barrel after the gas port); a 16 inch barrel does a pretty good job optimizing dwell time for a middy gas system. 14.5 is on the low end, and could potentially run into issues cycling certain ammo. Not likely, but something to consider.