turner's WASR or BIG 5 YUGO SKS?

[Cokebottle]

I hear that post 05 imports of parts kits are the the Real McCoy's as far as the magwell not being a single stack opening.

Heard wrong.

"Parts kits" are imported with a torch-cut receiver and they are remanufactured on a domestic receiver here in the US.

Now, I'm not saying that Century is bending flats for the WASR. I thought they were, but I read that they are imported as functional rifles.
922(r) has not changed since 2004... a non-sporting rifle may still not be imported, and it may not be (re)manufactured with more than 10 imported parts.
So if Century is importing completed, functional rifles, they must be in a "sporting" configuration, which apparently excludes double-stack mag configurations.

If they are importing parts kits, they can build the receivers to take any magazine they'd like, so long as they contain no more than 10 imported parts when complete. IF they do contain more than 10 imported parts, then the "sporting" requirement would still apply and they may build the receivers to take single stack.

[supratreo]

well, don't all WASR's come with a muzzle brake and PG? if so, a mag lock is required which means you will be limited to 10rd mags. so there's no point in having DS mags if you have a lock. if your in a different situation where you can use pre bans then thats different.

[TNP'R]

WASR all the way! No knock on Saiga but that thing does nothing for taste. If I were to buy something for superb functionality I would definately go with something other than a Saiga. For a plinker it works for me...

its an ak without a pistol grip and russian made a WASR have nothing on them.

[Cokebottle]

well, don't all WASR's come with a muzzle brake and PG? if so, a mag lock is required which means you will be limited to 10rd mags. so there's no point in having DS mags if you have a lock. if your in a different situation where you can use pre bans then thats different.

The PG is the only "evil feature".
Muzzle brake is not.

A kydex wrap or an MMG (if you can find one, they stopped making the adapters for the AK), and you can remove the mag lock and use any high-cap pre-bans that you own.

[supratreo]

hmm sorry i thought the slant brake on the end counted as a muzzle brake. either way, the PG requires it to have a mag lock and 10rd mag so the option to use a double stack doesn't matter. unless of course you remove the PG, which now i'm thinking might be cool if i get some pre bans.

this shouldn't be this complicated haha.
either way, i've been looking into both WASR's and Saigas and it looks like by the time your done converting a saiga you pretty much going to spend just as much as buying a WASR which is $5-600.

anyway, the OP was wondering if he should get a SKS or WASR, how are they related? aren't they 2 completely different riffles?

[Ksmash01]

WASR + MMG = You can use all the pre-CA ban mags you have/want.


or is the WASR not compatible with MMG's.....?

[CSACANNONEER]

hmm sorry i thought the slant brake on the end counted as a muzzle brake. either way, the PG requires it to have a mag lock and 10rd mag so the option to use a double stack doesn't matter. unless of course you remove the PG, which now i'm thinking might be cool if i get some pre bans.

this shouldn't be this complicated haha.
either way, i've been looking into both WASR's and Saigas and it looks like by the time your done converting a saiga you pretty much going to spend just as much as buying a WASR which is $5-600.

anyway, the OP was wondering if he should get a SKS or WASR, how are they related? aren't they 2 completely different riffles?

The slant brake is a muzzle brake and counts as far as 922(r) goes. But, MBs are not considered "evil fetures" as far as Ca AW laws go.

You can use a MM or a gripwrap and not need a mag lock as long as you don't have any other "evil features".

Yes, AK patterned rifles are NOTHING like SKS patterned rifles.

[Mac]

Heard wrong.

"Parts kits" are imported with a torch-cut receiver and they are remanufactured on a domestic receiver here in the US.

Now, I'm not saying that Century is bending flats for the WASR. I thought they were, but I read that they are imported as functional rifles.
922(r) has not changed since 2004... a non-sporting rifle may still not be imported, and it may not be (re)manufactured with more than 10 imported parts.
So if Century is importing completed, functional rifles, they must be in a "sporting" configuration, which apparently excludes double-stack mag configurations.

If they are importing parts kits, they can build the receivers to take any magazine they'd like, so long as they contain no more than 10 imported parts when complete. IF they do contain more than 10 imported parts, then the "sporting" requirement would still apply and they may build the receivers to take single stack.

Yeah thanks for clarifying that cokebottle I was wondering the same about that. Why I mentioned heresay as opposed to FUD. The 922 sporting thing. Could it be
other States are getting complete rifles (that accept AK mags)since the ban is lifted in free states since 04? Or is the 922 sporting purposes import law prohibiting that? Meaning US made receivers and single stack WASR only.

[Cokebottle]

Yeah thanks for clarifying that cokebottle I was wondering the same about that. Why I mentioned heresay as opposed to FUD. The 922 sporting thing. Could it be
other States are getting complete rifles since the ban is lifted in free states since 04? Or is the 922 sporting purposes import law prohibiting that? Meaning US made receivers

922(r) has nothing to do with the assault weapons ban and is still in full force in 50 states.

The difference is, in free states, they can have non-neutered semi-autos that the CaDOJ considers to be assault weapons.
922(r) compliance is met by the rifle being (re)manufactured using fewer than 10 imported parts.
The very same rifles can be built and owned here as long as they have a maglock or are a "featureless" build.

One of our moderators has personally built enough AK pattern rifles to outfit a small army

[Mac]

answer me this if you will. Are the WASR's being imported since 05
ALL single stack?

[DirtyJerz]

answer me this if you will. Are the WASR's being imported since 05
ALL single stack?

And if so, wouldn't this be a benefit so as to avoid the possible mag wobble?

[Mac]

And if so, wouldn't this be a benefit so as to avoid the possible mag wobble?

Ha yeah I guess so

Still I don't care for the look myself.
Man, talk about confusion (On my part). Luckily I am not a Lawyer or there would be a lot of folks doing time right now.

chalk it up to a brain fart.

[jackliu239]

I love my SKS more than my WASR, just feel like a more solid piece of machinery.

[ohlone]

are those saiga using double stack mag?

[SanPedroShooter]

The slant brake is a muzzle brake and counts as far as 922(r) goes. But, MBs are not considered "evil fetures" as far as Ca AW laws go.

You can use a MM or a gripwrap and not need a mag lock as long as you don't have any other "evil features".

Yes, AK patterned rifles are NOTHING like SKS patterned rifles.

Do really think these rifles dont have some similar traits? As an owner of both, being able to study them side by side leads me to some conclusions about Kalashnikov's design. The AK seems like an streamlined (less parts, simpler) version of the larger and more complicated design.