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I'd rather get the AR-30 .338 Lapua over the mini windrunner. I think the windrunner family is a little bit overated and overpriced anyway.
Plus the AR-30 is just a little bit more than half of the Mini Windrunner's priceComment
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I am with you on that one. I've been trying to decide between the AR-30 in .338 Lapua or Ferret .408 Chey Tac (Armalite has no plans in making an AR-40 in .408 Chey-Tac if they did that is what I would get).Originally posted by scorpionusaI'd rather get the AR-30 .338 Lapua over the mini windrunner. I think the windrunner family is a little bit overated and overpriced anyway.
Plus the AR-30 is just a little bit more than half of the Mini Windrunner's pricesigpicComment
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Simple answer: both
I'd go with the .338 Lapua first since it's comparable with the .408 CheyTac. Both can hit target accurately over 1000 meters, but how often do you get to shoot that far. If you're into big guns and don't already have a .50 BMG, and have an old AR-15 receiver lying around, you might want to invest into a .50BMG upper and register it as a .50BMG rifle. I find that average cost for .338 Lapua, .408 CheyTac, and .50BMG ammo are almost the same. Actually .50BMG is easier to find and sometime cheaper than the others since there are plenty of surplus .50BMG. .338 and .408 are new caliber, so you won't find any surplus for those.Comment
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Of course both, just which one first!Originally posted by scorpionusaSimple answer: both
I'd go with the .338 Lapua first since it's comparable with the .408 CheyTac. Both can hit target accurately over 1000 meters, but how often do you get to shoot that far. If you're into big guns and don't already have a .50 BMG, and have an old AR-15 receiver lying around, you might want to invest into a .50BMG upper and register it as a .50BMG rifle. I find that average cost for .338 Lapua, .408 CheyTac, and .50BMG ammo are almost the same. Actually .50BMG is easier to find and sometime cheaper than the others since there are plenty of surplus .50BMG. .338 and .408 are new caliber, so you won't find any surplus for those.
I wouldn't know from experience, but from what I read surplus .50 BMG is only good for plinking, not supposed to be all that accurate. For factory/custom loads, Lapua is a tad cheaper, .50 BMG and .408 Chey-Tac about the same (you need kids to sell to support that habit).
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Yeah, the cost is the only thing. I like that the EDM folds up into a suitcase though. They are very well made, and I'm sure they are very accurate.
For the money, though the AR is a lot better deal. A $400 Mossberg would be an even better deal, and just as accurate, at any distance I can shoot. Just doesn't look at 'tactical'.Comment
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I've got one, cool gun. A little harder to carry with say a sling or the like, due to all metal stock just digging into you at odd times.
The safety selector sucks, I leave it on 'fire' (as I do all weapons, which are treated as loaded at all times.)
The magazine will rattle a little when EMPTY and inserted. When partially or completely full it seems OK.
1/3-1/4MOA groups are the best I can wring out of it. I suspect the problem is the shooter and the gun could do even better
Oh yeah, 250gr SMK 93gr RL-25 will hole (ie completely perforate) 3/4" steel at 500yds. Rocking great round!
And the Armalite brake makes for no more recoil than a .243!
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Best to get a DPMS single shot lower; yes, the mag needs to be removed and yes, it is illegal to remove the mag from Fab-10/Vulcan lowers, because you now have a detachable magazine.Originally posted by sparrowwill those .50 cal upper's fit on a fab10 or vulcan lower or does the fixed mag get in the way. if the mag is a problem is it illegal to remove it if you plan on soley useing it as a .50 lower?sigpicComment
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I think what he meant is best to have a DPMS single shot lower before 1/1/05. You can't just buy one now, put a .50 upper on it and register it as a .50BMG rifle. Also, if you already own a Fab10 receiver/lower before 1/1/05, it should be ok to put a .50 upper on and register it.Originally posted by C.G.Best to get a DPMS single shot lower; yes, the mag needs to be removed and yes, it is illegal to remove the mag from Fab-10/Vulcan lowers, because you now have a detachable magazine.
Yes, the fixed mag will have to be removed, so for the Vulcan lower, it is illegal since now you have an AR-15 receiver that can accept a detachable magazine. But for the Fab10, even if the internal mag is removed, it still cannot accept detachable magazine since it has no mag well, so it would not be illegal.Comment
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[quote=scorpionusa]I think what he meant is best to have a DPMS single shot lower before 1/1/05. You can't just buy one now, put a .50 upper on it and register it as a .50BMG rifle. Also, if you already own a Fab10 receiver/lower before 1/1/05, it should be ok to put a .50 upper on and register it.
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True on the receiver registration.
Yes, plausibly it could in spite of having to break the weapon open. I think I would question the DOJ with that one.But for the Fab10, even if the internal mag is removed, it still cannot accept detachable magazine since it has no mag well, so it would not be illegal.sigpicComment
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