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  • Eleutheros
    Junior Member
    • Nov 2009
    • 60

    Keep Saiga "featureless" with AK functionality

    Many Saiga owners have expressed a desire keep their rifle "featureless" without a pistol grip but wish to improve the trigger and use AK-mags. Here's a way to do that.

    1. Convert the Saiga back to the AK trigger configuration (a vast improvement) and install an AK stock, thereby meeting 922r compliance with four US parts. Then install a bullet guide and file the mag latch slightly until the Saiga can retain AK mags.

    2. For about $6.5o you can buy at Walmart a black, velcro-secured wrist support wrap that in seconds attaches around the neck of the AK stock, providing a secure and natural grasp for your trigger hand. This solution is less ugly than a Kydex grip wrap or Monsterman grip, far less expensive, and far more functional, having the advantage of utilizing your God-given thumb.

    The only qualification is your hand size. To test beforehand that this configuration would fit you, grasp the neck of your Saiga's stock (sporter or AK) and see if the tip of your trigger finger reaches the side of the mag release housing. If it does, then this should work for you.
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    evidens83
    Calguns Addict
    • Apr 2009
    • 7839

    Pics?
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    • #3
      SJgunguy24
      I need a LIFE!!
      • May 2008
      • 14849

      Just do this, it's black, featureless, and still scares small children.

      There are 3 kinds of people in this world.
      The wise, learn from the mistakes of others.
      The smart, learn from their own mistakes.
      The others, well......they just never learn.

      "Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, Give Me Liberty, Or Give Me Death!"
      Patrick Henry.

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      • #4
        MrPlink
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Mar 2010
        • 12532

        I'm not sure I want to velcro things to my gun. I'm not too sure on how LEO would look at this as being featureless too.
        The California Moderate Centrist Militia member in exile

        disclaimer:
        everything I post is for arguendo and entertainment purposes only, and should not be construed to be legal advice

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        • #5
          SJgunguy24
          I need a LIFE!!
          • May 2008
          • 14849

          Originally posted by MrPlink
          I'm not sure I want to velcro things to my gun. I'm not too sure on how LEO would look at this as being featureless too.
          What my gun? I don't care how they look at it or what their opinion is. You tell me what the features are and you will only find 1, the detachable mag.
          There are 3 kinds of people in this world.
          The wise, learn from the mistakes of others.
          The smart, learn from their own mistakes.
          The others, well......they just never learn.

          "Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, Give Me Liberty, Or Give Me Death!"
          Patrick Henry.

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          • #6
            WebMoskal
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2007
            • 533

            SJgunguy24, can you post side view pic?

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            • #7
              SJgunguy24
              I need a LIFE!!
              • May 2008
              • 14849

              Originally posted by WebMoskal
              SJgunguy24, can you post side view pic?
              There are 3 kinds of people in this world.
              The wise, learn from the mistakes of others.
              The smart, learn from their own mistakes.
              The others, well......they just never learn.

              "Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, Give Me Liberty, Or Give Me Death!"
              Patrick Henry.

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              • #8
                thrillhouse700
                Veteran Member
                • Feb 2010
                • 4349

                Originally posted by SJgunguy24
                I love it. Info on the build? What front sight is that? I'm intrigued as I am saving for my first saiga.
                "I *love* the idea of DOJ buyback money being used to buy guns for kids. " - Steadyrock

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                • #9
                  MrPlink
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Mar 2010
                  • 12532

                  Originally posted by SJgunguy24
                  What my gun? I don't care how they look at it or what their opinion is. You tell me what the features are and you will only find 1, the detachable mag.
                  no, not yours. Yours is legit. I meant using a velcro wrist support in order to not have a pistol grip. I run my AK featureless too, much more "evil" that way
                  The California Moderate Centrist Militia member in exile

                  disclaimer:
                  everything I post is for arguendo and entertainment purposes only, and should not be construed to be legal advice

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                  • #10
                    SJgunguy24
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • May 2008
                    • 14849

                    Originally posted by thrillhouse700
                    I love it. Info on the build? What front sight is that? I'm intrigued as I am saving for my first saiga.
                    Front sight is from an SKS. The HK front sight work a bit better with the rear and that might get changed when I get the money.
                    Besides that it's just a Saiga conversion with the holes welded and the rail on the other side has been removed to facilitate a left side charging handle.
                    There are 3 kinds of people in this world.
                    The wise, learn from the mistakes of others.
                    The smart, learn from their own mistakes.
                    The others, well......they just never learn.

                    "Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, Give Me Liberty, Or Give Me Death!"
                    Patrick Henry.

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                    • #11
                      m.s.g.
                      Member
                      • Nov 2007
                      • 316

                      I'm intrigued, but still not understanding how the velcro wrist support works.

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                      • #12
                        DB2
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2006
                        • 1542

                        I believe all the OP is doing is wrapping the neck of the stock for more "grip". Not making a grip out if the bandage.

                        If you have ever shot a standard AK without a grip, it's easy to picture.

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                        • #13
                          railroader
                          Veteran Member
                          • Oct 2005
                          • 3115

                          It still seems like it is too far a reach from the stock to a standard ak trigger. Plus with the short ak stock it just seems awkward to shoulder the stock with no grip. That's why the saiga has the trigger group moved back in the first place. One way to improve the the stock saiga trigger is to order a trigger group from Dinzag arms. These trigger parts improve the trigger pull on a saiga immensely without the rifle becoming uncomfortable to shoot. Mark

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                          • #14
                            WebMoskal
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2007
                            • 533

                            Originally posted by Eleutheros
                            Many Saiga owners have expressed a desire keep their rifle "featureless" without a pistol grip but wish to improve the trigger and use AK-mags. Here's a way to do that.

                            1. Convert the Saiga back to the AK trigger configuration (a vast improvement) and install an AK stock, thereby meeting 922r compliance with four US parts. Then install a bullet guide and file the mag latch slightly until the Saiga can retain AK mags.

                            2. For about $6.5o you can buy at Walmart a black, velcro-secured wrist support wrap that in seconds attaches around the neck of the AK stock, providing a secure and natural grasp for your trigger hand. This solution is less ugly than a Kydex grip wrap or Monsterman grip, far less expensive, and far more functional, having the advantage of utilizing your God-given thumb.

                            The only qualification is your hand size. To test beforehand that this configuration would fit you, grasp the neck of your Saiga's stock (sporter or AK) and see if the tip of your trigger finger reaches the side of the mag release housing. If it does, then this should work for you.
                            Post a pic

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                            • #15
                              Eleutheros
                              Junior Member
                              • Nov 2009
                              • 60

                              Originally posted by evidens83
                              Pics?
                              The attached photo shows my Saiga 7.62x39 with an ACE wrist wrap on the neck of the stock, increasing the area that the trigger hand grasps. My Saiga .223 has a Mueller wrist wrap that Walmart now sells, of the same size and appearance. Each product has its own velcro strip that attaches to the wrap itself to secure it tightly.

                              It's by no means "tacticool" but my interest is functionality, and that concern this alternative fulfills quite well for me.
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