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  • BlackReef
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    • Apr 2007
    • 3616

    Dragunov SV-98, how to get this bad boy to Cali...



    Picked up a Shotgun News today and saw that InterOrdnance.com is selling their SSG 97 (SV98) Rifles for around $750, along with an Authentic Russian 4x24 Tactical Scope and Sling. I am ready to buy (Upper Receier for my AR may have to wait, lol) now, and assuming that this company does ship to Cali (I am awating a reply to the E-mail I sent them), with what method can they ship the Rifle to me as? What would be the easiest? A Set-Screw through the 10-Round Magazine? Can they ship it to me and ship the stock seperate?

    Experts, Please Advise. I LOVE this gun. I plan on fixing the magazine with a screw or something when I recieve it.
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    Flux Capacitor
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2006
    • 1811

    Don't think its a real Dragnov. But you could either get lanworldinc.com or coldwar shooters to import it to you. If you get the SSG-97, you'll have to have em remove the thumbhole stock. I you get the SSG-200, you'll need for them to remove the pistol grip. I think! Can you scan the advertisement for me? I preordered mine, and should be here in a couple weeks

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      hoffmang
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Apr 2006
      • 18448

      The problem you're going to have is that taking the stock off may make the rifle shorter than 30" OAL and thus an AW. I have a feeling you're going to have to have a friendly in between transfer FFL like CWS to fix the magazine.

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      • #4
        Flux Capacitor
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2006
        • 1811

        Originally posted by hoffmang
        The problem you're going to have is that taking the stock off may make the rifle shorter than 30" OAL and thus an AW. I have a feeling you're going to have to have a friendly in between transfer FFL like CWS to fix the magazine.

        -Gene
        That may be true. Sounds right, but preordered their new SSG-2000 (polymer stock and pistol grip). Should be able to remove the grip...no prob.

        Does anyone know if morepoop4u's AK maglock will also work on these?
        Last edited by Flux Capacitor; 05-28-2007, 8:22 PM.

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        • #5
          BlackReef
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          • Apr 2007
          • 3616

          hmm, I wonder how I would go about doing this. I wonder if InterOrdnance would fix the mag for me?

          For Clarification, the Rifle has to be Cal-Legal BEFORE it enters California, meaning the FFL in Cali could not fix it for me, it has to be fixed prior, correct?

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            BlackReef
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            • Apr 2007
            • 3616

            Basically the SSG 2000 is the same as the SSG 97, with the exception of two different stocks and stock materials? In that sense, I could order the SSG 2000 (its a little cheaper anyway) and add wood furniture and a true SV98 Stock, and bam, SV98 (with fixed mag of course)

            I know its tedious, but as cool as all-black looks on the SSG 2000, there is something about the Black/Wood theme of the SV98 look that just makes my toes wiggle

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              BlackReef
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              • Apr 2007
              • 3616

              Originally posted by Flux Capacitor
              That may be true. Sounds right, but preordered their new SSG-2000 (polymer stock and pistol grip). Should be able to remove the grip...no prob.

              Does anyone know if morepoop4u's AK maglock will also work on these?

              Sup Flux. I got your message but Im on a Laptop at my new apartment and have a scanner nowhere to be found. Sorry man. Shotgun news is available at any Vons or Stater Bros. Also, the Mag lock should fit fine considering the receiver is an stamped AK Receiver...

              -Joe

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              • #8
                virulosity
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2006
                • 1569

                The OAL of this rifle with the stock removed is 38"

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                • #9
                  AJAX22
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • May 2006
                  • 14980

                  If you can get the vendor to field strip the rifle prior to shipping it you should be ok.

                  If its not configured to be semi auto then its not an AW, so pulling the bolt carrier out should CYA untill you can break it down and properly install a bullet button or a proper stock/grip combination.

                  IANAL but I believe this is how grammerton got his PS90 into CA
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                    hoffmang
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Apr 2006
                    • 18448

                    King,

                    If the CA FFL had a AW Permit he might be able to import and then fix, but my understanding is that the AW Permitees tend to be too conservative to do such things. Your best bet is going to be going through an out of state transfer dealer to pin a mag or install a non-thumbhole stock - leaving the rifle pistol gripless.

                    Edit: Just saw the OAL is longer than 30" so just have the stock shipped separately.

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                    • #11
                      Flux Capacitor
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2006
                      • 1811

                      Originally posted by King$nake
                      hmm, I wonder how I would go about doing this. I wonder if InterOrdnance would fix the mag for me?

                      For Clarification, the Rifle has to be Cal-Legal BEFORE it enters California, meaning the FFL in Cali could not fix it for me, it has to be fixed prior, correct?


                      No, they won't even sell this rifle to California, nor will they take payment from a California resident. You'll need a middleman to make payment for you and you'll pay him. You'll also need to find a way to fix the mag. I know there is a way but I think morepoop4u's maglock will work, but I am not sure. You may want to find out what the length of the rifle is w.o the stock and you might be in good shape. Other than locking the mag, you could have them fill in the thumbhole stock (more work). Can you scan the ad for me? I'd like to see it

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                      • #12
                        Flux Capacitor
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2006
                        • 1811

                        Originally posted by King$nake
                        Basically the SSG 2000 is the same as the SSG 97, with the exception of two different stocks and stock materials? In that sense, I could order the SSG 2000 (its a little cheaper anyway) and add wood furniture and a true SV98 Stock, and bam, SV98 (with fixed mag of course)

                        I know its tedious, but as cool as all-black looks on the SSG 2000, there is something about the Black/Wood theme of the SV98 look that just makes my toes wiggle

                        The SSG-2000 is a little cheaper? Whats the price of it? Its basically a 7.62x54 SSG-97 with polymer.

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                          69Mach1
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                          • Jan 2006
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                          Originally posted by hoffmang
                          The problem you're going to have is that taking the stock off may make the rifle shorter than 30" OAL and thus an AW. I have a feeling you're going to have to have a friendly in between transfer FFL like CWS to fix the magazine.

                          -Gene
                          Gene. Without the stock attached, isn't it technically dissassembled? If that makes it an AW, than wouldn't that make a mini 14 without the stock also an AW? We would never be able to dissassemble any rifle. Wish DOJ would clarify that. By the way, the SSG-97 without the stock measures 36 inches from the muzzle to the rear of the receiver tang. So no problem for the PSL.


                          Originally posted by King$nake
                          hmm, I wonder how I would go about doing this. I wonder if InterOrdnance would fix the mag for me?

                          For Clarification, the Rifle has to be Cal-Legal BEFORE it enters California, meaning the FFL in Cali could not fix it for me, it has to be fixed prior, correct?
                          I'm pretty sure Interordnance won't ship the SSG-97 to CA, so you will have to go through CWS to get it to your FFL. With the stock removed of course. The other problem is that Interordnance has been advertising the availibility of the SSG-97 and SSG-2000 for awhile now, but still not shipping out orders. Are you sure they have them in stock and ready to ship?
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                          • #14
                            BlackReef
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                            • Apr 2007
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                            Originally posted by hoffmang
                            King,

                            If the CA FFL had a AW Permit he might be able to import and then fix, but my understanding is that the AW Permitees tend to be too conservative to do such things. Your best bet is going to be going through an out of state transfer dealer to pin a mag or install a non-thumbhole stock - leaving the rifle pistol gripless.

                            Edit: Just saw the OAL is longer than 30" so just have the stock shipped separately.

                            -Gene

                            Ok cool. I was going to say this looks like a BIG gun, so even without the stock it may work. Im assuming that the stock would have to be shipped in a seperate box, no? Can they ship a detached stock in the same box?

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                              BlackReef
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                              • Apr 2007
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                              Originally posted by 69Mach1
                              Gene. Without the stock attached, isn't it technically dissassembled? If that makes it an AW, than wouldn't that make a mini 14 without the stock also an AW? We would never be able to dissassemble any rifle. Wish DOJ would clarify that. By the way, the SSG-97 without the stock measures 36 inches from the muzzle to the rear of the receiver tang. So no problem for the PSL.




                              I'm pretty sure Interordnance won't ship the SSG-97 to CA, so you will have to go through CWS to get it to your FFL. With the stock removed of course. The other problem is that Interordnance has been advertising the availibility of the SSG-97 and SSG-2000 for awhile now, but still not shipping out orders. Are you sure they have them in stock and ready to ship?

                              No, Im not sure. I just saw the Ad today and E-mailed them. That would really suck if they are not shipping out these rifles.

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