AK Mags on Saiga 7.62X39

[QQQ]

So I'm thinking of having my Saiga 7.62X39 adjusted to accept standard AK-47 magazines. It's currently a featureless build. Note that I'm not interested in a full conversion (not a fan of the bullet button), just in making it able to easily accept AK mags. This is mainly because I've noticed that AK 10-rounders seem to be cheaper and more abundant than Saiga 7.62X39 magazines. I've heard that it's just a matter of filing down some component near where the magazine goes, although I'm not sure that I trust myself to do this without messing things up.

1) What are some of the pros/cons, and how well does this usually work?
2) How much would an experienced gunsmith charge for just this?
3) Are there any trustworthy places in Orange County (near Irvine) that would do this for a fair price? My Saiga is my baby and I'd hate for it to be FUBAR.

Thanks!

[Mac]

http://www.dinzagarms.com/saiga_762x39/saiga_762x39.html

Pretty sure that kicks off 922r. So what is the gain? Already have 10 round Saiga mags. I could be wrong though.

You will need to play the 10 or less game. Yeah assuming you have the guide ramp installed file the underside of the tab on each AK mag (a little at a time) till she locks in. Clicks

Now choose which other 4 U.S. made parts to swap out if 922r comes in play? Maybe some other members know?

2 other methods but I will let the resident AK builders comment on it.

If I had pre Dec 31, 1999 Standard Capacity AK mags (Which I do)- then I would maybe consider it But for 10 rounders?

[SJgunguy24]

So I'm thinking of having my Saiga 7.62X39 adjusted to accept standard AK-47 magazines. It's currently a featureless build. Note that I'm not interested in a full conversion (not a fan of the bullet button), just in making it able to easily accept AK mags. This is mainly because I've noticed that AK 10-rounders seem to be cheaper and more abundant than Saiga 7.62X39 magazines. I've heard that it's just a matter of filing down some component near where the magazine goes, although I'm not sure that I trust myself to do this without messing things up.

Most of those 10 round AK mags are garbage, and you only need a mag lock if you have more then 1 SB23 feature.

1) What are some of the pros/cons, and how well does this usually work?
pros: cheap abundant mags. It works great and is easy to do.
2) How much would an experienced gunsmith charge for just this?
I would charge you maybe 40$ for this job
3) Are there any trustworthy places in Orange County (near Irvine) that would do this for a fair price? My Saiga is my baby and I'd hate for it to be FUBAR.
No Idea, I've never been to OC

Thanks!

Your welcome

[SJgunguy24]

http://www.dinzagarms.com/saiga_762x...ga_762x39.html

Pretty sure that kicks off 922r. So what is the gain? Already have 10 round Saiga mags. I could be wrong though. Correct

You will need to play the 10 or less game. Yeah assuming you have the guide ramp installed file the underside of the tab on each AK mag (a little at a time) till she locks in. Clicks Never mod the mags to the gun, mod the gun to fit every mag. File the mag catch, but you need to have a few different mags so the balance can be found

Now choose which other 4 U.S. made parts to swap out if 922r comes in play? Maybe some other members know? FCG (3) and the butt stock (1) That would be converting the FCG into AK configuration.

2 other methods but I will let the resident AK builders comment on it.

If I had pre Dec 31, 1999 Standard Capacity AK mags (Which I do)- then I would maybe consider it But for 10 rounders?

I don't advocate relaying on mags for the parts count.

[welchy]

AK mags won't feed without a bullet button.

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you need to install a bullet guide. can you drill and tap a hole?

next file the mag catch. check your mags often.

change the gas piston to a US made one. a vice and a pipe wrench is all you really need for this.

install a US made fire control group. you will need to cut off the trigger for this to work. keep the factory wishbone/trigger linkage. you can also buy a FCG from dinzag but it's easy to mod one yourself. forget about the bolt hold open. just ditch it. it's a pain in the butt. it's does not belong in an AK. the dinzag FCG is moded for the BHO. save yourself the $25 and the headache of the BHO. just get a G2 and cut off the trigger.

i prefer to just use US made followers in my mags for the 4th US part but you could change your handguard for a US made one if you like.

[!@#$]

AK mags won't feed without a bullet button.

bullet guide not a bullet button...

[bballwizard05]

AK mags won't feed without a bullet button.

eh? you mean bullet guide?



OP: I'm sure there are some youtube videos or online picture by picture pages showing how to do it. Give yourself some credit, I think you can!

[bigthaiboy]

I don't advocate relaying on mags for the parts count.

I agree. Magazine parts as 922(r) US parts only really work when you have a fixed magazine rifle like an SKS. A rifle with a detachable magazine violates 922(r) as soon as a different magazine without the same number of US part is attached, ie any imported AK magazine.

AK mags won't feed without a bullet button.

I think you mean Bullet Guide.

[SJgunguy24]

you need to install a bullet guide. can you drill and tap a hole?

next file the mag catch. check your mags often.

change the gas piston to a US made one. a vice and a pipe wrench is all you really need for this.

install a US made fire control group. you will need to cut off the trigger for this to work. keep the factory wishbone/trigger linkage. you can also buy a FCG from dinzag but it's easy to mod one yourself. forget about the bolt hold open. just ditch it. it's a pain in the butt. it's does not belong in an AK. the dinzag FCG is moded for the BHO. save yourself the $25 and the headache of the BHO. just get a G2 and cut off the trigger.

i prefer to just use US made followers in my mags for the 4th US part but you could change your handguard for a US made one if you like.

If the bolt hold open doesn't belong on an AK, how can you say cut off the trigger and reuse the transfer bar?
That is sacrilegious IMO. That god awful plate needs to go and the trigger needs to be where Mr. K put it in the first place. The BHO is nice to have if your at the range. I mod my selectors to act as a BHO. It takes all of 30 seconds to replace the BHO on a Saiga conversion.

[!@#$]

If the bolt hold open doesn't belong on an AK, how can you say cut off the trigger and reuse the transfer bar?
That is sacrilegious IMO. That god awful plate needs to go and the trigger needs to be where Mr. K put it in the first place. The BHO is nice to have if your at the range. I mod my selectors to act as a BHO. It takes all of 30 seconds to replace the BHO on a Saiga conversion.

if you want the stock saiga feel/look you have to keep the transfer bar. it's what we are stuck with. i have done the MMG, no grip, etc. the stock saiga is the best choice for now IMO. with the moded G2 the trigger is very nice also.

notching the selector is the way to go if you want a BHO.

[SJgunguy24]

if you want the stock saiga feel/look you have to keep the transfer bar. it's what we are stuck with. i have done the MMG, no grip, etc. the stock saiga is the best choice for now IMO. with the moded G2 the trigger is very nice also.

notching the selector is the way to go if you want a BHO.

So do you punch the pins out? If you drill them out they can't be reused.

[!@#$]

So do you punch the pins out? If you drill them out they can't be reused.

you don't need to take them out at all. only the real FCG need to be taken out. the linkage can stay in.

[Mac]

I don't advocate relaying on mags for the parts count.

I don't either. why I said choose your other 4 U.S. made parts.
Maybe came across wrong in the reading.

You mentioned 1 of the other methods : file the mag catch on the rifle.

Yeah I did some synapse rendering on doing what the OP
is kicking around for mine some years ago . (Kalashnikov U.S.A. Saiga)

Honestly - if I did, it would be a full conversion that would make Mr. K happy. The flip side is I like it as it is.

[SJgunguy24]

you don't need to take them out at all. only the real FCG need to be taken out. the linkage can stay in.

The second pin has to come out unless you cut the retaining spring.