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  • Tre(y)13
    Member
    • Feb 2010
    • 271

    922r question

    does an american made bullet button count as a 922r part?
    Only the dead have seen the end of war - Plato

    The AR is like a prom queen. The AK is like a biker chick.

    Originally posted by Dutch3
    I have always heard Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms should be a convenience store...
  • #2
    SJgunguy24
    I need a LIFE!!
    • May 2008
    • 14849

    No it does not.
    There are 3 kinds of people in this world.
    The wise, learn from the mistakes of others.
    The smart, learn from their own mistakes.
    The others, well......they just never learn.

    "Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, Give Me Liberty, Or Give Me Death!"
    Patrick Henry.

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    • #3
      bigthaiboy
      Veteran Member
      • Apr 2007
      • 4795

      What rifle are you modifying or building?

      Life can make you do many things, even kiss a man with a runny nose.

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      • #4
        Tre(y)13
        Member
        • Feb 2010
        • 271

        another saiga
        Only the dead have seen the end of war - Plato

        The AR is like a prom queen. The AK is like a biker chick.

        Originally posted by Dutch3
        I have always heard Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms should be a convenience store...

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        • #5
          bigthaiboy
          Veteran Member
          • Apr 2007
          • 4795

          The Saiga has 14 imported parts which I've marked with a *
          You need to change at least 4 of those parts with a US part, so your Saiga has 10 or less imported parts.

          (a) No person shall assemble a semiautomatic rifle or any shotgun using more than 10 of the imported parts listed in paragraph (c) of this section if the assembled firearm is prohibited from importation under section 925(d)(3) as not being particularly suitable for or readily adaptable to sporting purposes.

          Paragraph (C) defines the following parts as "countable" under the law:
          (1) Frames, receivers, receiver castings, forgings or stampings *
          (2) Barrels *
          (3) Barrel extensions
          (4) Mounting blocks (trunions) *
          (5) Muzzle attachments
          (6) Bolts *
          (7) Bolt carriers *
          (8) Operating rods
          (9) Gas pistons *
          (10) Trigger housings
          (11) Triggers *
          (12) Hammers *
          (13) Sears
          (14) Disconnectors *
          (15) Buttstocks *
          (16) Pistol grips
          (17) Forearms, handguards *
          (18) Magazine bodies *
          (19) Followers *
          (20) Floorplates *
          Last edited by bigthaiboy; 09-20-2010, 12:04 AM.

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          • #6
            Dhena81
            Veteran Member
            • May 2010
            • 4587

            15,17,18,19

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            • #7
              Tre(y)13
              Member
              • Feb 2010
              • 271

              awesome..thanks for the list. and im thinking of the tapco (tromix) trigger group (3)..us made grip (1)..possibly a dinzag bullet guide (does that count and if so, what would it be categorized as on that list?) and a us made gas piston (1)
              Only the dead have seen the end of war - Plato

              The AR is like a prom queen. The AK is like a biker chick.

              Originally posted by Dutch3
              I have always heard Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms should be a convenience store...

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              • #8
                SJgunguy24
                I need a LIFE!!
                • May 2008
                • 14849

                Originally posted by Tre(y)13
                awesome..thanks for the list. and im thinking of the tapco (tromix) trigger group (3)
                Don't bother, the extra money isn't worth it. The mods have to be done to fit the BHO anyway

                ..us made grip (1)
                Remember to get a mag lock also.

                ..possibly a dinzag bullet guide (does that count and if so, what would it be categorized as on that list?)
                Doesn't count at all, just facilitates the use of hi cap mags.


                and a us made gas piston (1)
                Not needed, you will need a buttstock, get a US made stock and your compliant. Oh, I don't advise using mag parts for compliance parts. If you do then you can use those mags and those mags only. If you build the gun right, then any mags can be used.
                There are 3 kinds of people in this world.
                The wise, learn from the mistakes of others.
                The smart, learn from their own mistakes.
                The others, well......they just never learn.

                "Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, Give Me Liberty, Or Give Me Death!"
                Patrick Henry.

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                • #9
                  bigthaiboy
                  Veteran Member
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 4795

                  Originally posted by Tre(y)13
                  awesome..thanks for the list. and im thinking of the

                  tapco (tromix) trigger group (3) - Correct, 3 US parts

                  us made grip (1).. You can't count this. A pistol grip is not one of the counted 14 imported parts on a Saiga, because a Saiga is not imported with a PG. You can't replace something, if it was never there.

                  possibly a dinzag bullet guide (does that count and if so, what would it be categorized as on that list?) A bullet guide is not on the list, so cannot be counted as a 922(r) part.

                  and a us made gas piston (1) OK. that gives you your 4th US part.
                  Again, 922(r) is about replacing imported parts with US parts to get the imported parts count down to 10 or less. It's not about adding random US parts to rifle, even parts the rifle was never imported with in the first place.

                  Life can make you do many things, even kiss a man with a runny nose.

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                  • #10
                    rarf
                    Member
                    • Sep 2006
                    • 160

                    Originally posted by Tre(y)13
                    awesome..thanks for the list. and im thinking of the tapco (tromix) trigger group (3)
                    Get the one from dinzag, it's already modded for the bho.

                    Originally posted by Tre(y)13
                    ..us made grip (1)
                    Doesn't add to foreign parts count but doesn't replace any foreign parts either so no difference to 922r. If you add a foreign pistol grip, you will have to replace an additional foreign part (5 total). Same situation with muzzle attachment. It's only about number of foreign parts.

                    Originally posted by Tre(y)13
                    ..possibly a dinzag bullet guide (does that count and if so, what would it be categorized as on that list?) and a us made gas piston (1)
                    bullet guide itself doesn't matter, it only triggers 922r compliance since it allows use of high-cap military magazines and changes the rifle from a sporting config. US-made piston would count as the 4th.

                    Furniture might be easier to switch than the piston.

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                    • #11
                      stix213
                      AKA: Joe Censored
                      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                      • Apr 2009
                      • 18998

                      Originally posted by bigthaiboy
                      Again, 922(r) is about replacing imported parts with US parts to get the imported parts count down to 10 or less. It's not about adding random US parts to rifle, even parts the rifle was never imported with in the first place.
                      This ^^^^^

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