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  • santacruzstefan
    Veteran Member
    • Jul 2009
    • 4796

    AK-47 vs. AK-74

    So, before I make my choice, I'd like to get some outside input. This will be my first AK, and I understand there are merits to each round, including penetration, range, and cost/ availability. What is your opinion, and which would you choose, if you could only have one right now (I'll probably end up owning both in the future, regardless). Primary use will be at the range, and maybe a limited capacity as a SHTF-type weapon (limited because I don't think its gonna happen real soon, but thats a whole other thread).
    92
    AK47 (x39)
    0%
    65
    AK74 (5.45)
    0%
    27
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  • #2
    ADAM
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2008
    • 2497

    just for your info spetznaz is going back to 47 for more knok down power its the 45 vs 9m i take the 45
    Last edited by ADAM; 09-05-2010, 11:19 PM.
    sigpic I said I didn"t have much use for one,didn"t say I didn"t know how to use it. MATTHEW QUIGLEY

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    • #3
      Notblake
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2009
      • 512

      Originally posted by ADAM
      just for your info spetznaz is going back to 47 for more knok down power
      Source?

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      • #4
        ADAM
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2008
        • 2497

        family member is a spetznaz
        sigpic I said I didn"t have much use for one,didn"t say I didn"t know how to use it. MATTHEW QUIGLEY

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        • #5
          SickofSoCal
          Calguns Addict
          • May 2009
          • 7634

          About time someone started a poll like this. I like both.......a lot.

          But I feel that the 74 is the one I would grab.........don't have have some crazy mags for it? I mean less weight, more ammo, etc. (going to Google Image search.....)

          Round is about 3,000 fps........about the same as .223, I mean the 47 is from 1947......the AR is from 1957........I think the 74 was the Russians somewhat belated answer to the AR. (74 is from 1974)
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          • #6
            steamboat
            Junior Member
            • Jul 2008
            • 66

            7.62... turns cover into concealment... no replacement for displacement... pick your pun but heres my take: Once I got used to the the .30cal ak recoil, 5.45 just didnt do it for me. Not that the 762 is a recoil beast mind you, but if low recoil impulse is the goal, I prefer an AR.

            That is all.
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            • #7
              TNP'R
              Calguns Addict
              • May 2010
              • 7832

              Originally posted by SickofSoCal
              About time someone started a poll like this. I like both.......a lot.

              But I feel that the 74 is the one I would grab.........don't have have some crazy mags for it? I mean less weight, more ammo, etc. (going to Google Image search.....)

              Round is about 3,000 fps........about the same as .223, I mean the 47 is from 1947......the AR is from 1957........I think the 74 was the Russians somewhat belated answer to the AR. (74 is from 1974)
              lol.. Ok why look at the dates they were first introduced? the colt 1911 came out way before 47 and people still love it and its one of the best hand guns around.If something is still around from 47 and in wide spread use it means its good or at-least decent.

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              • #8
                SickofSoCal
                Calguns Addict
                • May 2009
                • 7634

                Originally posted by TNP'R
                lol.. Ok why look at the dates they were first introduced? the colt 1911 came out way before 47 and people still love it and its one of the best hand guns around.If something is still around from 47 and in wide spread use it means its good or at-least decent.
                Well, because the round for the AK-47 was designed in 1942 (debuted the next year), the .223 round was designed in 1964.........22 years is quite a discrepancy in time (especially for military tech). Both the AK and AR were built around the round (he he I'm a poet!) more or less.

                The reason I bring this up, is because the AK vs. AR is talked about endlessly, as we all know. But in a way, it's comparing apples to oranges. Obviously, the Russians wanted their own 3,000 fps round and rifle.........hence the AK-74 in 1974.........which was post-Vietnam War (at least the majority of the action) I might add.
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                • #9
                  TNP'R
                  Calguns Addict
                  • May 2010
                  • 7832

                  Originally posted by SickofSoCal
                  Well, because the round for the AK-47 was designed in 1942 (debuted the next year), the .223 round was designed in 1964.........22 years is quite a discrepancy in time (especially for military tech). Both the AK and AR were built around the round (he he I'm a poet!) more or less.

                  The reason I bring this up, is because the AK vs. AR is talked about endlessly, as we all know. But in a way, it's comparing apples to oranges. Obviously, the Russians wanted their own 3,000 fps round and rifle.........hence the AK-74 in 1974.........which was post-Vietnam War (at least the majority of the action) I might add.
                  That depends if you like the .223 round as well.Isn't the .223 round more expensive compared to the 7.62x39 I believe so.

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                  • #10
                    MrPlink
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Mar 2010
                    • 12532

                    Originally posted by steamboat
                    7.62... turns cover into concealment... no replacement for displacement... pick your pun but heres my take: Once I got used to the the .30cal ak recoil, 5.45 just didnt do it for me. Not that the 762 is a recoil beast mind you, but if low recoil impulse is the goal, I prefer an AR.

                    That is all.
                    through and through, this!

                    Although dont get me wrong, 545 aint called the poison bullet for no reason!
                    Still an awsome round.
                    The California Moderate Centrist Militia member in exile

                    disclaimer:
                    everything I post is for arguendo and entertainment purposes only, and should not be construed to be legal advice

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                    • #11
                      SickofSoCal
                      Calguns Addict
                      • May 2009
                      • 7634

                      Ahhhhhh, here it is:

                      The 45-round plastic magazine of the RPK-74 light machine gun is also interchangeable with that of the AK-74.
                      Now isn't that sweet!?!? An extra 15 rounds if you please.


                      Comparison of the AK-74 (top) and RPK-74 (bottom):




                      Here's a good video:

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                      • #12
                        Zonie
                        Member
                        • Jul 2010
                        • 210

                        Assuming no body armor, the 7.62 round has better stopping power. However, the the 5.45 round is much better at penetrating body armor and shoots flatter and further.

                        If you anticipate armored targets, then get the '74. If not, then get the '47.
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                        • #13
                          SxB
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2009
                          • 914

                          I have a 74. I love it. Easy to shoot quickly and accurately. Parts everywhere.
                          I will say none of the local dealers stock 5.45 but there is always tons of 7.62.
                          However you can find the Russian surplus tins online (1080 rounds per) for about 150 or two tins (1case) for about 300.
                          That's cheap! 2160 rounds for 300.
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                          • #14
                            SickofSoCal
                            Calguns Addict
                            • May 2009
                            • 7634

                            Originally posted by TNP'R
                            That depends if you like the .223 round as well.Isn't the .223 round more expensive compared to the 7.62x39 I believe so.
                            Yes, even though it has less powder!

                            Guess the Russkies version of it (the .223) isn't so hot with most folk. Like I said up there ^ a ways, I like both AK's.
                            "If men were angels, no government would be necessary." - James Madison, Federalist No. 51 (1787)

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                            • #15
                              Notblake
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2009
                              • 512

                              Originally posted by SickofSoCal
                              Ahhhhhh, here it is:



                              Now isn't that sweet!?!? An extra 15 rounds if you please.
                              The only way you are going to get another 15 rounds is to load 2 more mags .... we live in California remember? Its a moot point thou as the 47 has 40 rd mags.

                              They are both good rifles. Choosing one is VERY difficult and it really depends on a lot of personal factors.

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