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  • tdaughg
    Member
    • May 2009
    • 312

    mp5 clones good or bad?

    im interested in getting a mp5 clone and it seems like there are a lot of mixed reviews of them. ive searched around here and found some good info and ive narrowed it down to 2 companies. ati/mke (company that does the gsg-5) and turners fabrication.

    turners fabrication seems to do custom one off builds from the ground up. ati is mass produced off the shelf item. the thing i dont get is why the turners is almost $1000 more than the ati. is their build quality really that much better? i havent been able to come across any info that shows the turners product warrants the higher price.

    anybody here have a clone from either of the companies or able to shed some light on their products? thanks.


    turners fabrication:


    ati/mke:
  • #2
    sevensix2x51
    Veteran Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 3835

    No help for you on this, but everytime I see your avatar ihear
    "Look my shneegrows I had a strizoke in my brizain"
    In my head, and I laugh hysterically. Thanks for that, people think im crazy.

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    • #3
      sd1023x
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2007
      • 1016

      Forget the turner fabrications.

      The American Tactical Imports is from Turkey, built on genuine HK tooling, so probably of better fit and function. If your looking for a rifle, the ATI MKE AT-A2 is limited to a proprietary 10 round magazine due to import restrictions, but I have seen statements from Atlantic firearms that they can be removed to accept any mp-5 style magazine, but definitely 2x check with them again....4 Da Shorteeeeeeeez!
      Originally posted by Shotgun Man
      Sorry, but I can't help but get a homo-erotic vibe from this thread.

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      • #4
        650IS350
        Member
        • May 2010
        • 220

        So is that Magazine a 10/30?
        Yeah, I think I got the Black Rifle sickness ( But still love mah' PSL )
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        • #5
          Group B
          Member
          • Nov 2008
          • 490

          "I want candy!"

          Nah the mag is a 10/10, but the magwell requires modification to accept normal mags.

          I myself really like the MKE AT94K pistol.
          "I intend to go in harm's way.... I have a fighting ship and I will never retreat from an enemy force..."

          - CDR E.E. Evans, USN, October 27, 1943
          at USS Johnston's commissioning

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          • #6
            MrPlink
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Mar 2010
            • 12532

            I've only handled one ATI. Very dissapointing in the fit and finish. It was about on par with my cheapo century WASR
            The California Moderate Centrist Militia member in exile

            disclaimer:
            everything I post is for arguendo and entertainment purposes only, and should not be construed to be legal advice

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            • #7
              CAL.BAR
              CGSSA OC Chapter Leader
              • Nov 2007
              • 5632

              The long and short of it is. . . bad. HK is hard to duplicate. Vector was widely considered one of the "better" mp5 clones and mine has been back to the factory 3x now and has had multiple HK parts installed and it STILL doesn't run 100% I love shooting it, but it's not my SHTF choice if you know what I mean.

              Everyone thinks they can build an HK in their garage like an AK. No way!

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              • #8
                tdaughg
                Member
                • May 2009
                • 312

                so far everyone is confirming all the stuff ive heard everwhere else. hk is very hard to duplicate and get working 100% of the time.

                i think it was on hkpro forums that quite a few people have turners rifles and their fit,finish, and function are all perfect from what their saying. everybody seems to be in agreement that ati's fit and finish is lacking.

                i seem to be seeing a lot of people with the ati pistols and they are very happy with them. not really finding much about the rifle though. just going to have to do some more research.

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                • #9
                  zeroescence
                  Member
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 240

                  I'm picking my mke ati at-94A2 in 30 min. I'm going to shoot it tomorrow. I'll be back with the skinny tomorrow.

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                  • #10
                    sergeantrex
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2007
                    • 824

                    Originally posted by tdaughg
                    im interested in getting a mp5 clone and it seems like there are a lot of mixed reviews of them. ive searched around here and found some good info and ive narrowed it down to 2 companies. ati/mke (company that does the gsg-5) and turners fabrication.

                    turners fabrication seems to do custom one off builds from the ground up. ati is mass produced off the shelf item. the thing i dont get is why the turners is almost $1000 more than the ati. is their build quality really that much better? i havent been able to come across any info that shows the turners product warrants the higher price.

                    anybody here have a clone from either of the companies or able to shed some light on their products? thanks.


                    turners fabrication:


                    ati/mke:
                    http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/storeproduct864.aspx
                    Save yerself some dough git the Masterpiece Arms 9mm Carbine. It's numba one in da hood G. I got mines at PRK ARMS.
                    "Fear is the path to the dark side, fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering."

                    Yoda

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                    • #11
                      darkest2000
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2006
                      • 1400

                      Get the ATI. closest thing we can get to a real HK. I'm assuming that you don't plan on using it has a sear host so having a auto carrier block doesn't matter.

                      And make sure you get the pistol version. Do not get the carbine version unless you want to get stuck with using proprietary 10rd mags.
                      www.collectordesignwerks.com

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                      • #12
                        tdaughg
                        Member
                        • May 2009
                        • 312

                        Originally posted by darkest2000
                        Get the ATI. closest thing we can get to a real HK. I'm assuming that you don't plan on using it has a sear host so having a auto carrier block doesn't matter.

                        And make sure you get the pistol version. Do not get the carbine version unless you want to get stuck with using proprietary 10rd mags.
                        i really just dont like the pistol version despite all the good things ive read about it.

                        the special 10rd mags for the carbine is a major deterrent for me though. id much rather just make 10/30's from regular mags. if the proprietary mags were $10/ea then i wouldnt mind so much. i doubt thats the case.

                        also from my understanding the lower and stock assemblies are a one piece unit so swapping out the stock would be a royal pain.

                        the benifits of the turners doesnt warrent a $1000 price increase either. i know either way the carbine will have less original hk parts due to 922 compliance.

                        im definitely looking forward to zero's review of the ati. just might be the deciding factor.

                        thanks everyone for your input.

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                        • #13
                          sevensix2x51
                          Veteran Member
                          • Sep 2009
                          • 3835

                          does it HAVE to be an mp5? the rifle caliber offerings seem to be pretty reliable. ive got 2 hk clones in .223 by century, of all people, and they work just great! best $700 i ever spent. twice.

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                          • #14
                            tdaughg
                            Member
                            • May 2009
                            • 312

                            Originally posted by sevensix2x51
                            does it HAVE to be an mp5? the rifle caliber offerings seem to be pretty reliable. ive got 2 hk clones in .223 by century, of all people, and they work just great! best $700 i ever spent. twice.
                            its either an mp5 or build another ar15 in 9mm. no matter how i do it im going to be into it for a few bucks when its all said and done. at the moment i have enough ar15 variants so thats why im really leaning towards the mp5.

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                            • #15
                              sevensix2x51
                              Veteran Member
                              • Sep 2009
                              • 3835

                              hmm.. and its gotta be 9mm? cuz if you have a .45, then theres usually some cool stuff in the member section. if only i were born a rich man...

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