Unconfigured Ad Widget

Collapse

Sizzlin' CZ

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • #46
    Flouncer
    Senior Member
    • May 2010
    • 1305

    Also, you can't single load.
    Every cartridge has to be fed from the magazine.
    That is in reference to the Controlled round feed. I'm confused, as all my Mausers can be single fed. How does the CRF differ from the Mauser Model 96/98 claw ??
    A Nation of Sheep Will Beget a Government of Wolves

    Comment

    • #47
      X-NewYawker
      In Memoriam
      • May 2008
      • 5993

      Originally posted by Flouncer
      That is in reference to the Controlled round feed. I'm confused, as all my Mausers can be single fed. How does the CRF differ from the Mauser Model 96/98 claw ??
      Same system. CZ550 has detachable single position mag.



      Comment

      • #48
        Flouncer
        Senior Member
        • May 2010
        • 1305

        ?

        Without contradicting anyone or being argumentative, I don't understand. I have shot thousands of rounds through my four Mausers, almost all by setting a round in the action and closing the bolt. Bang, eject, reload. Other than the detach feature, same deal with the CZ. What am I missing here ?
        A Nation of Sheep Will Beget a Government of Wolves

        Comment

        • #49
          ar15barrels
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Jan 2006
          • 56951

          Originally posted by X-NewYawker
          Proper technique to torque slotted head screws?
          Randall Rausch

          AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
          Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
          Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
          Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
          Most work performed while-you-wait.

          Comment

          • #50
            tiger222
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2006
            • 2396

            Nice stick, not my bag, I like the metal finish colour, but the stock let's it down. The spiderwebbing says "off the shelf from a Midway Sale" to me. Also the muzzle brake looks too modern somehow compared to the rest of the rifle. I'd get an AK looking brake custom made for it, and a different stock - maybe something that looks more communist in origin? It looks better in the sunlight than artificial. And with no adjustable comb a 42mm objective and lower rings would probably be a better combo? If there ever was a gun made to fit an IOR, this would be it, ex-combloc for an ex-combloc. On the rings, why not just go to the hardware store and get allen head screws?

            But I am glad you are enjoying it. Congrats.
            Seriously missing the 80's.....

            Comment

            • #51
              Beetle Bailey
              Veteran Member
              • Apr 2004
              • 2620

              Originally posted by Flouncer
              Without contradicting anyone or being argumentative, I don't understand. I have shot thousands of rounds through my four Mausers, almost all by setting a round in the action and closing the bolt. Bang, eject, reload. Other than the detach feature, same deal with the CZ. What am I missing here ?
              You are putting a lot of undue wear on your extractor that way.

              If you load a round into the magazine on your Mauser, when you start to close the bolt, the "rim" (I know 8mm Mauser is "rimless" but dunno what else to call it) will come up behind the extractor like it should. The extractor will fit into the groove with no fuss (and this is how the controlled round feed works) and when you close the bolt all the way, it should be very smooth and easy. My old Mausers were a joy to shoot because they ran so smoothly.

              If you just throw a round halfway into the chamber and start to close the bolt, the front of the extractor will be pushing the round into the chamber instead of the actual boltface. When you turn the bolt down to fully close it, you are applying a lot of leverage to force a solid, one-piece steel extractor to "jump the rim" while inside the action. Yes, it can be done, and yes I actually did it on ocassion with an old mis-matched military Mauser, but it's not a good practice because you are not using the gun the way it was designed but rather stressing the extractor in a way it wasn't intended to be stressed. Some extractors were designed to jump the rim of the cartridge but the Mauser is not one of them. In short, you are needlessly putting wear on the gun.

              Mausers work properly and work best when fed from the magazine.
              "All bad precedents began as justifiable measures." Julius Caesar

              Comment

              • #52
                X-NewYawker
                In Memoriam
                • May 2008
                • 5993

                Originally posted by Beetle Bailey
                You are putting a lot of undue wear on your extractor that way.

                If you load a round into the magazine on your Mauser, when you start to close the bolt, the "rim" (I know 8mm Mauser is "rimless" but dunno what else to call it) will come up behind the extractor like it should. The extractor will fit into the groove with no fuss (and this is how the controlled round feed works) and when you close the bolt all the way, it should be very smooth and easy. My old Mausers were a joy to shoot because they ran so smoothly.

                If you just throw a round halfway into the chamber and start to close the bolt, the front of the extractor will be pushing the round into the chamber instead of the actual boltface. When you turn the bolt down to fully close it, you are applying a lot of leverage to force a solid, one-piece steel extractor to "jump the rim" while inside the action. Yes, it can be done, and yes I actually did it on ocassion with an old mis-matched military Mauser, but it's not a good practice because you are not using the gun the way it was designed but rather stressing the extractor in a way it wasn't intended to be stressed. Some extractors were designed to jump the rim of the cartridge but the Mauser is not one of them. In short, you are needlessly putting wear on the gun.

                Mausers work properly and work best when fed from the magazine.
                And as I said, you can chamber a round, take out the mag and "top it off" to have eleven rounds in the gun.

                Comment

                • #53
                  Pryde
                  Veteran Member
                  • Oct 2005
                  • 2506

                  Wow, no offense but:
                  $2400 for a tactical bolt gun........... without a picatinny rail?..... and with slotted screw heads?
                  So much for paying attention to the market and having desirable features. That's like buying a Ferrari with square wheels.

                  In the future I will stay away from all products with the words "Counter sniper" in it.

                  Comment

                  • #54
                    joelukehart
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2008
                    • 977

                    Not to change the subject, but please tell us about that pistol caliber SBR AR!!!

                    Comment

                    • #55
                      Flouncer
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2010
                      • 1305

                      Claw !!

                      Thanks Beetle. Your description is as I envisioned it. The guy that built my wildcat on an Argentine 98 action suggested the single round drop in as easier on the bullet tip. I trust him immensely. My "claw" is nearly a century old, and has over nearly a thou of my handloads through it. Lord only knows what it shot before I got it. As the Big 5 gun I purchased was in .308, and the original was in 7.65 x 53 or or 7 x 57mm, it has been home to at least three barrels in three different calibers over a century of time. Truly an amazing weapon. I questioned the statement that you can't single load with controlled round feed.

                      While in theory I agree with you, it seems to me to be more of a logic vs actuality thing. These are tough old rifles !!! It also came up because I was not getting tight bullet grip or tension on my handloads and I was worried that I might jam a round deep into a case out of sight upon chambering . Solved that as a separate issue.
                      A Nation of Sheep Will Beget a Government of Wolves

                      Comment

                      Working...
                      UA-8071174-1