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  • gun toting monkeyboy
    Calguns Addict
    • Aug 2008
    • 6820

    Quick BCM Middy upper/ EoTech 512 range report

    Well, I finally got my BCM Mid-length upeer to the range today. It is set up with a Cavalry Arms C6 fore end, and a Eotech 512. All of that on a JD lower with a 6 position stock. Kind of a KISS set up.

    The initial mag of 3 rounds for a function test functioned alright. The second and third went off as a pop-pop bump fire or something. No idea what caused it, nor was I able to replicate it. Weird, but more likely me than the gun at this point. I put another 200+ rounds through it and didn't have it happen again. That was the only hiccup I had all day. The groupings could be covered with a nickle at 25 yards.

    There is a bit of an issue with the 512 and the hand guards. I like the 512s because they use AA batteries. This makes them about an inch longer than the next longest model. The problem comes from the height of the hand guards. It sticks up far enough from the barrel that it limits how far forward I can mount the EoTech. That, in turn, limits how much room I have to mount the BUIS behind it. I have an extra Magpul MBUS that I tried out on it. It fits, but it makes it a little difficult to reach the rear-mounted buttons on the 512. So I pulled them off, and will be going with a less-bulky BUIS when I get that far.

    I also tested the sight to see how well it works when you can only look through part of it. I used tape to obscure 3/4 of the sight picture. Looking through the 1/4 that was left, I was able to see the hologram just fine. It no longer co-witnessed with the front sight, but I was able to shoot with it none the less. If anything, my groupings got smaller. I repeated this several times covering up different parts of the lens, but the result was the same. Next I tried shooting the riflle while holding it tilted 90 degrees to the right and left. I have the sight set for 1.5 inches above the POA at 25 yards. The POI was 1.5 inches to the right or left of the POA, depending on which way I held the rifle. Predictable, but still good to know.

    The final test was with a bayonet attached. With older rifles and bayonets, you get a marked increase in the tradjectory of the bullet because of the shockwave generated but the broad, flat back of the blade so close to the muzzle. I have experimented with this before with a variety of old bolt guns, and found that the "bounce" effect can lift the POI up as much as 2 inches at 25 yards and 6-8 inches at 100 yards. I used an older M7 bayonet, which fits on the mid-length carbine in an almost identical manner as it does a full-length rifle. As near as I can tell, there was no "bounce". The POI remained the same. I tried this several times, and it didn't change. Weird. Unexpected as well. I will have to try this out at the 100 yard range later. Still, it is kind of nice to know.

    On a whole, I am pretty happy with this set up. I'll probably get the Magpul Mid-length hand guards when (if) they come out, as those are normally low enough for me to mount the scope a bit farther forward. Aside from that, this is just a fun new toy to play with.

    -Mb

    p.s. on an EBR note, 10 out of the 12 lanes today had people using AR rifles. Several had more than one. This is such a huge change from 2 years ago when you might see one or two. I would dearly love to know how many there are in the state. That would be the kind of statistic that would make the antis choke or stroke out.
    Originally posted by aplinker
    It's OK not to post when you have no clue what you're talking about.
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    freonr22
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Dec 2008
    • 12945

    nice write up. Bwiese has indicated a couple times, maybe 300,000 olls since the ban
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    Originally posted by dantodd
    We will win. We are right. We will never stop fighting.
    Originally posted by bwiese
    They don't believe it's possible, but then Alison didn't believe there'd be 350K - 400K OLLs in CA either.
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    Our fate is ours alone to decide as long as we remain armed heavily enough to dictate it.

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    • #3
      swerv512
      Veteran Member
      • Mar 2006
      • 3076

      you should always have pics of your first outing with a new rifle......
      interesting point on the bayonet/accuracy issue- never really thought of it.

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      • #4
        gun toting monkeyboy
        Calguns Addict
        • Aug 2008
        • 6820

        Originally posted by swerv512
        you should always have pics of your first outing with a new rifle......
        interesting point on the bayonet/accuracy issue- never really thought of it.
        I have no idea why you don't get the same effect with these bayonets. They are much thinner along the top edge, I guess. And it looks like they are slightly offset. The blade on all of the ones I have looked at appears to be canted a few degrees off center. Maybe that has something to do with it. I'd post pics, but I am too much of a freakin' chimp to actually get anything that shows up here. I am 0 for 5 with that so far.
        Originally posted by aplinker
        It's OK not to post when you have no clue what you're talking about.

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        • #5
          vta
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2009
          • 1672

          i believe the new generation of magpul moe handguards is suppose to be designed to accommodate the eotech mounted at a more forward position with the battery compartment over the handguard. that is, they ever release it. i am also waiting to test out my BCM BFH middy upper that I just put together a couple of weeks ago. got any pics of the new rig?

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