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  • idbstyler
    Member
    • Apr 2010
    • 438

    Barrel length question

    I was curious if you would loose any accuracy going from a 16" barrel to a 14.5" barrel. Is there really a noticeable difference?
    Tyler Smith
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    Sniper3142
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    • May 2004
    • 2579

    Accuracy is not directly affected by barrel length.

    Velocity (and therefore, maximum effective range) is what is most affected by barrel length.
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    • #3
      HighLander51
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      • Feb 2010
      • 5144

      'Accuracy' is a combo of sight picture, trigger, ammo and distance. You probably won't make any 350 yard shots on steel with what you are talking about. It all depends on what you are looking for.

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      • #4
        vta
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2009
        • 1672

        you might lose accuracy if the crown on the barrel is not re-cut evenly. if its done by a competent smith you should be fine. effective range will be the issue as mentioned above.

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        • #5
          twotap
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          • Dec 2009
          • 2825

          How short can a barrel be before it becomes too short and compromises your freedom?

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            Sniper3142
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            • May 2004
            • 2579

            Originally posted by twotap
            How short can a barrel be before it becomes too short and compromises your freedom?
            I'm not sure I understand your question.

            The legal minimum barrel length in the state of California is 16 inches. This is also the federal minimum.
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            • #7
              cmaynes
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2007
              • 812

              16 inches unless you can get a sign-off for an SBR (and pay the the $200 for the tax stamp).

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              • #8
                RRichie09
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                • Apr 2010
                • 2592

                Originally posted by cmaynes
                16 inches unless you can get a sign-off for an SBR (and pay the the $200 for the tax stamp).
                Sign-off? Can you elaborate?

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                • #9
                  dachan
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2007
                  • 1973

                  Originally posted by RRichie09
                  Sign-off? Can you elaborate?
                  The application to purchase a federal tax stamp (license) for a SBR requires the signature of your local chief law enforcement officer (CLEO).

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                  • #10
                    CSACANNONEER
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                    • Dec 2006
                    • 44093

                    Originally posted by dachan
                    The application to purchase a federal tax stamp (license) for a SBR requires the signature of your local chief law enforcement officer (CLEO).
                    Or, if you are looking for a C&R SBR, you can just do a trust and not deal with your local LEA!

                    Also, you can go with a 14.5" barrel with a permanent extension attached to it. This will give you the ballistics of a 14'5" barrel and the ability to keep it as a regular title one long gun at the same time. This is VERY commonly done.
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                      RRichie09
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                      • Apr 2010
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                      Originally posted by dachan
                      The application to purchase a federal tax stamp (license) for a SBR requires the signature of your local chief law enforcement officer (CLEO).
                      How likely is this to happen? I don't hear about people with SBR in Cali.

                      I want a 12.5" ar sooo bad.

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                      • #12
                        goodlookin1
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                        • Apr 2009
                        • 2557

                        Originally posted by RRichie09
                        How likely is this to happen? I don't hear about people with SBR in Cali.

                        I want a 12.5" ar sooo bad.
                        I wouldn't hold your breath...
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                          Originally posted by goodlookin1
                          I wouldn't hold your breath...
                          Why? As long as it's a C&R, it's easy to get in California!

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                            RRichie09
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                            • Apr 2010
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                            Originally posted by CSACANNONEER
                            Why? As long as it's a C&R, it's easy to get in California!

                            http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...ad.php?t=82693
                            AR's aren't C&R

                            and I wouldn't call that easy, I'd call that jumping through flaming hoops like damn animal in the circus.

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                            • #15
                              Omega13device
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                              • Jan 2006
                              • 1943

                              Getting back to the original question...a shorter barrel does not automatically mean less accuracy. Here's a post from another forum that says it better than I can.

                              Speaking very broadly, assuming your barrel is long enough to properly stabilize the bullet and the barrels have the same diameter, the shorter barrel will be stiffer, which means it flexes less due to temperature, etc., which means that theoretically at least, you'll get smaller groups.

                              Practically speaking, you also have to add in your means of sighting. If you shorten the sight radius, then you're practical accuracy will probably degrade. If you are using an optic or the same sight radius, then that won't matter. Again, we're only talking group size, not actually hitting what you want to hit.

                              There is something else to consider as well. As the range increases, the bullet loses velocity due to drag. At some point, the bullet will lose stability because it's just moving too slowly. Obviously, the barrel with the lower velocity will reach instability before the other one.

                              One final thought. If your barrel is too long, you might actually decrease bullet velocity. Once the powder has all burned, keeping the bullet in the barrel will result in friction reducing the velocity. So it isn't a given that you can increase a barrel length without any potential downside.

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