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  • elchivato
    Banned by own request
    • Jul 2010
    • 195

    AFG-1™ - Angled Fore Grip > ANYONE SEEN ONE ON A MINI-14? PICTURES?

    LOOKS KINDA COOL, TACTIKEWEL!
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    WW2Buff
    Senior Member
    • May 2007
    • 1327

    First of all, you're screaming. Secondly, the forum has pretty much deemed the AFG on a featureless rifle a no go so unless you have a mag lock on that mini you could potentially have an AW on your hands. -Ben

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    • #3
      sevensix2x51
      Veteran Member
      • Sep 2009
      • 3835

      my mini-14's have wood where any rails would be. theres no way to mount an afg on them. and if anyone suggests otherwise; they will find the back of my hand very displeasing.

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      • #4
        UserM4
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2010
        • 1687

        Originally posted by sevensix2x51
        my mini-14's have wood where any rails would be. theres no way to mount an afg on them. and if anyone suggests otherwise; they will find the back of my hand very displeasing.
        Obviously different strokes for different folks but one can change the stock and hang whatever they want on a mini-14
        While we're here arguing about the latest high tech running shoes, there's some Kenyan out there running barefoot. Guess who's gonna win the marathon?

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        • #5
          sevensix2x51
          Veteran Member
          • Sep 2009
          • 3835

          you may have missed the ca-legal implications in my post, but they were there.

          ps-



          Last edited by sevensix2x51; 08-07-2010, 10:34 PM.

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          • #6
            CHS
            Moderator Emeritus
            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
            • Jan 2008
            • 11338

            Originally posted by WW2Buff
            First of all, you're screaming. Secondly, the forum has pretty much deemed the AFG on a featureless rifle a no go so unless you have a mag lock on that mini you could potentially have an AW on your hands. -Ben
            The forum has been pretty undecided on the fact, in my eyes.

            Personally, I've never seen how you could possibly get a "pistol style grasp" on an AFG and pass the "smell test". It's just not possible ergonomically. In my opinion the AFG is perfectly fine as an accessory on a featureless rifle like the mini-14.
            Please read the Calguns Wiki
            Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes...Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.
            --Cesare, Marquis of Beccaria, "On Crimes and Punishment"

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            • #7
              rugershooter
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2009
              • 1804

              I don't mean to thread-jack, but to those of you who think the AFG might be considered a pistol grip, what exactly leads you to believe that?

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              • #8
                unusedusername
                Veteran Member
                • Sep 2008
                • 4124

                My wife has really small fingers. She can get a "pistol style" grip on it, with her thumb and one finger through the hole in the back of it.

                I'll wait for a court case deciding one way or the other. The AFG is not so awesome that I need one right away on my featureless rifle.

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                • #9
                  elchivato
                  Banned by own request
                  • Jul 2010
                  • 195

                  Originally posted by WW2Buff
                  First of all, you're screaming. Secondly, the forum has pretty much deemed the AFG on a featureless rifle a no go so unless you have a mag lock on that mini you could potentially have an AW on your hands. -Ben
                  First of all, Im excited! Get over the caps dude!

                  Second of all, from what Ive seen, the forum has not deemed anything! You guys have been arguing back and forth but have nothing settled that I found. If there is something concrete, and I dont mean some forum guru, show the links.

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                  • #10
                    elchivato
                    Banned by own request
                    • Jul 2010
                    • 195

                    Originally posted by sevensix2x51
                    my mini-14's have wood where any rails would be. theres no way to mount an afg on them. and if anyone suggests otherwise; they will find the back of my hand very displeasing.
                    Buy some rails, drill some holes, screw the rails in, and attach the grip!

                    BTW: I dont think I would find anything about the back of a hand displeasing, especially because one of my hands can go around the wrist (so I could look at the back of a hand - should be like any other, more or less), and the other hand can go palm down on the elbow. You may have missed the implication, but its there.
                    Last edited by elchivato; 08-08-2010, 1:10 AM.

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                    • #11
                      elchivato
                      Banned by own request
                      • Jul 2010
                      • 195

                      Originally posted by rugershooter
                      I don't mean to thread-jack, but to those of you who think the AFG might be considered a pistol grip, what exactly leads you to believe that?
                      That what I wanna know. Vertical grip = 90 degrees. Angle grip = maybe 150 or 30 degrees depending on how you look at it. How the hell could that be viewed as anything close to a pistol grip. I guess if you have no clue on geometry, and firearm function and design. Oh, I get it, somehow you shove your thumb in the little opening, then when you fire your gun, your thumb breaks. Yup, its a pistol grip! Not thinkin so much, sounds like a bunch a crap.


                      Hum, OLL vs AFG?
                      Last edited by elchivato; 08-08-2010, 10:00 AM.

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                      • #12
                        rugershooter
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2009
                        • 1804

                        Besides the small hole in the back, I don't see how it's any different than the grip on a traditional rifle stock- M14, SKS, etc.

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                        • #13
                          elchivato
                          Banned by own request
                          • Jul 2010
                          • 195

                          Originally posted by unusedusername
                          My wife has really small fingers. She can get a "pistol style" grip on it, with her thumb and one finger through the hole in the back of it.
                          I can do the same hold on my Harris bipod mounted on my M1A, or the Surefire G2 mounted on a rail on the front part of my Mini-14's stock. Actually, you could even do it with a sling.

                          Wonder what would happen to that finger and thumb, if the AFG was on an M1A? Would not want my wife to do it!

                          Come on, lets be real. Who shoots a pistol with their index finger and their thumb only. What is this, tea cup etiquette at the firing range?

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                          • #14
                            MrPlink
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Mar 2010
                            • 12532

                            Just because you can attempt a pistol like grasp on a device does not make something pistol grip. You can hold the leg of a bi pod much more effectively using a pistol like grasp, but you would be hard pressed to argue that this makes a bi pod a pistol grip.
                            The California Moderate Centrist Militia member in exile

                            disclaimer:
                            everything I post is for arguendo and entertainment purposes only, and should not be construed to be legal advice

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                            • #15
                              sevensix2x51
                              Veteran Member
                              • Sep 2009
                              • 3835

                              Originally posted by elchivato
                              Buy some rails, drill some holes, screw the rails in, and attach the grip!

                              BTW: I dont think I would find anything about the back of a hand displeasing, especially because one of my hands can go around the wrist (so I could look at the back of a hand - should be like any other, more or less), and the other hand can go palm down on the elbow. You may have missed the implication, but its there.
                              engurish kudasai?

                              i dont type very eloquently when im drunk, so sorry about that.

                              imho the best part about the mini is its simplicity. it doesnt need all kind of fancy garbage to be a great carbine. why be a test case for the forward handgrip, just to stick some silly accessory onto an otherwise great carbine? you can do it, sure. post some pics!
                              but i wouldnt, thats all im saying.

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