Zeroing in an AK 47 with Red dot.

[b00gym4n]

I'm saving up to purchase an Arsenal SGL21 and plan on putting on an Aimpoint red dot sight on the rear to co-witness with my iron sights. Not sure if that made sense, I'm pretty noobish in the rifle game.

My question is.. at what distance should I be zeroing my aimpoint at? This is for when SHTF and just having fun at the range. If I zeroed it in at 50 yards am I supposed to aim higher when I shoot @ 100 yards?

Thanks in advance. (this question was inspired by another post, but i didnt want to bombard his with my own questions)

[CSACANNONEER]

First, of all, zero your optics at the distance which you are planning to shoot it. It's that easy. It only takes one to two rounds and proper technique to zero optics at ANY distance so, it's always an easy thing to change. Secondly, you are mounting optics on an AK and you will probably be using surplus or imported cheap ammo. So, you should not expect to shoot more precisely than 3-4 moa. I really doubt that you will be a good enough shot to notice any difference between your POI if your gun is zeroed at 50 yards or 100 yards when you are shooting at either distance.

[Juice5610]

I just bought a SGL-21 and have an aimpoint coming in later this week. What you want to do is put the Ultimak gas tube rail and mount it on that. As for the zero check out the link below. A zero at 50 yards will give you the most use out of a battle rifle. You'll be on target +/- 2" from 0 to 250 yards being dead on at at 50 yards then again at 225 yards. I'll post pics of my SGL-21 when I finish it later this week. Hope this helps

http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=18&t=328143

Edit: My buddies Arsenal SGL-20 was getting 1.05 MOA at 100 yards (USING WOLF) thats more then good for a battle rifle let alone an ak. Remember if you want to shoot sub moa at 100 yards get yourself a AR and make your own ammo that IS NOT what the ak platform was ment for.

[b00gym4n]

Good info. I heard the ultimak works well, but I really prefer to have my optics on the rear. Do you have any experiences or info on this mount? I heard it was phenomenal, but it could be hype.

Kalinka Optics

[FeuerFrei]

Kalinka Optics has it right.
Abso-friggen-lutely great mounts for your commie rail equiped AK type rifle.
Once adjusted it will return/keep zero every time.
My personal experience.

[Juice5610]

Good info. I heard the ultimak works well, but I really prefer to have my optics on the rear. Do you have any experiences or info on this mount? I heard it was phenomenal, but it could be hype.

Kalinka Optics

I believe alot of people arent running that kalinka mount because they have broken during classes before. Head on over to warriortalk.com and ask Gabe Saurez (an AK instructor ) about that mount. I believe the problem was that that mount was made so thin(see attachement) so it could sit as low as possible allowing it to cowitness which didnt do any good if you hit the deck and the optic/mount took a direct hit. If your just planning to plink with it then by all means go for it but my AK is now my primary "go to" rifle and I would not trust my life to that mount

[b00gym4n]

The last thing I want is my optics to break off during a zombie invasion. I'm awaiting forum activation to ask members there. While I'm waiting can you describe to me the type of ultimak you put on your sgl21? I'm not sure which one fits.

[Juice5610]

I ordered the M1-B after being told it would fit the SGL. Their all sold out. New shipment comes in later this week/early next week.

[ar15barrels]

[Juice5610]

I was waiting for that lol but I will take faster (stable) target aquisition over tradition every day of the week

[Juice5610]

to the op take a look at these threads

http://www.warriortalk.com/showthread.php?t=60011

http://www.warriortalk.com/showthread.php?t=71569

[WebMoskal]

I just bought a SGL-21 and have an aimpoint coming in later this week. What you want to do is put the Ultimak gas tube rail and mount it on that. As for the zero check out the link below. A zero at 50 yards will give you the most use out of a battle rifle. You'll be on target +/- 2" from 0 to 250 yards being dead on at at 50 yards then again at 225 yards. I'll post pics of my SGL-21 when I finish it later this week. Hope this helps

http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=18&t=328143

Edit: My buddies Arsenal SGL-20 was getting 1.05 MOA at 100 yards (USING WOLF) thats more then good for a battle rifle let alone an ak. Remember if you want to shoot sub moa at 100 yards get yourself a AR and make your own ammo that IS NOT what the ak platform was ment for.

SGLs 21 and 20 use 7.62x39, what you quote ^^ is for 223

[SJgunguy24]

I've messed with mounting optics on AK's. IMO the best thing one can do for the AK is change the sights to the HK style sights. Easy to see and work extremly well on AK's. I have changed to those on 2 of my AK's

[Juice5610]

SGLs 21 and 20 use 7.62x39, what you quote ^^ is for 223

Very true I forgot all about that sorry op

Edit: heres this

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=386174

[Motz]

^^^ +1 I would imagine those two different bullets act a little different once they are out of the pipe. Even shooting a heavy heavy 77gr SMK (about the biggest bullet you can get to fit in an AR mag) you can double the weight of a bullet with a 7.62x39. That dammed gravity likes to pull heavy things down faster than lighter things. Trust me you should see my gut...