SOCOM 16 v. Scout?

[beauregard]

I plan on getting one of the two, but when I go to the Springfield website it's impossible to A/B the two without downloading PDF's. So, with that said, would someone please direct me to a site or tell me the basic differences between the two. I'd also like your opinion on which will more suit an apocalypse scenario.

Thank you, I value your opinion.

[vta]

this thread on THR might give you some insight.

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=138691

[beauregard]

this thread on THR might give you some insight.

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=138691

Perfect. Thank you.

[H2O MAN]

I plan on getting one of the two, but when I go to the Springfield website it's impossible to A/B the two without downloading PDF's.
So, with that said, would someone please direct me to a site or tell me the basic differences between the two. I'd also like your opinion on which will more suit an apocalypse scenario.

Thank you, I value your opinion.

The folks over at THR think the SOCOM's gas system is different from other M1As and M14s... it ain't.



The barrel on the SOCOM is 16.25" long and it uses a proprietary gas lock front sight with compensator.
SEI makes a SOCOM kit that allows the use of their compensator DC Vortex or an original style DC Vortex.
The kit includes a special gas lock front sight base that accepts standard front sights and their is a special SOCOM gas plug.

The barrel on the Scout is 18.0" long and can utilize an assortment of muzzle devices and gas lock front sights and sight bases.

Ballistics favor the 18.0" barrel and it can accurately reach about 200 yards further than the 16.25" barrel.

I was ready to have SEI build a SOCOM for me with a Springfield barrel back in 2007, but I shelved the idea... I'm glad I waited



Better, 4 groove, 1:10 ROT 16" barrels will be available from SEI in the future... SEI has been tapped by a particular ARMY unit to build 500 16" M14s.
These will use the kit described above and the will run sound suppressors.

I hope that helps.

[Spaceghost]

I don't want to come across as a troll, but this is a serious question: How can the gas system be the same if it has a prorietary anything? Sounds different to me.

The folks over at THR think the SOCOM's gas system is different from other M1As and M14s... it ain't.



The barrel on the SOCOM is 16.25" long and it uses a proprietary gas lock front sight with compensator.
SEI makes a SOCOM kit that allows the use of their compensator DC Vortex or an original style DC Vortex. The kit includes a special gas lock front sight base that accepts standard front sights and their is a special SOCOM gas plug.

The barrel on the Scout is 18.0" long and can utilize an assortment of muzzle devices and gas lock front sights and sight bases.

Ballistics favor the 18.0" barrel and it can accurately reach about 200 yards further than the 16.25" barrel.

Better 16" barrels will be available from SEI in the future... SEI has been tapped by a particular ARMY unit to build 500 16" M14s. These will use the kit described above and the will run sound suppressors.

I hope that helps.

[saki302]

THe front sight is on the gas block instead of way out front on the brake/flash hider. That's the only difference- the gas system works exactly the same.

-Dave

[X-NewYawker]

Had three socom iis. Just bought a scout. I want the 18 inch barrel. 22 inch standard just too long for me.

[sevensix2x51]

+1 to the gas block not being different. its only the nut on the end. socoms are great, and accurate. i noticed no difference in accuracy going from a 22" to the socom 16"... my socom outshoots a lot of folks with loaded/nm m1a's... in certain circles, at least...

[Legasat]

I have never shot a Socom.

I can only tell you I own a Scout and I am very happy with it.

[sevensix2x51]

my next m1a will probably be a scout if i can find one... but i, at no time, feel "lacking," by having a socom. i just like to have 2 of everything...

[beauregard]

i just like to have 2 of everything...

Me too, didn't work too well with girlfriends though.

[redcliff]

Depends on your use; if you're only gonna have (1) .308 semi then the Scout makes perfect sense. Jack of all trades and master of none.

However, I prefer the Socom; if I want a short handy semi-auto .308 as a defensive weapon I want it as short as possible.

For long range encounters I have several other .308 rifles with longer barrels and appropriate optics..

[sevensix2x51]

Me too, didn't work too well with girlfriends though.

ooooohhh snap!

[dexter9659]

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Ballistics favor the 18.0" barrel and it can accurately reach about 200 yards further than the 16.25" barrel.
I hope that helps.

Quite true. I shot .5" groups with my scout last friday at 200 yrds with my scout... though it is not a total OEM rifle, with my handloads.

Here are some other reasons to get a scout:

1. The sight radius is longer giving more accuracy at range, but without making the weapon too long. A good compromise.

2. The Scout is compatible with ALL GI parts, the Socom is not. For instance its gas block and plug are proprietary to the Socom.

3. The muzzle break on the Socom is not nearly as effective as the Scout's break.

Im sure I could think of many more, but the point is.... get a Scout.

[H2O MAN]

+1 dexter

My 18.0" Franken-Bush/Scout/MK14