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  • CEDaytonaRydr
    Veteran Member
    • Feb 2010
    • 4108

    FAL Optics/Mount Question...

    I searched..

    Okay, so I've got a new (to me) FAL-type rifle but it just has the plain, ol' Iron Sights on it. Honestly, I wouldn't mind just running the Irons but these things are annoying; with my preferred cheek-weld, the base of the sight smacks my safety glasses almost every time!

    So, with that in mind, I think I'm going to get something a little more substantial. I was thinking about using this UTG Base because it seems like an easy replacement:



    Beyond that, I have no idea what's best for an FAL optics-wise. I've been told not to have great expectations for the accuracy of an FAL, so I don't want to waste $1000 on optics for it but I'm thinking about something that's appropriate for the weapon. Maybe a tactical scope, or red-dot with some magnification... I dunno...

    All suggestions welcome (except "use the search button")! Thanks for your help!!!
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    9mmepiphany
    Calguns Addict
    • Jul 2008
    • 8075

    if you want to be "gun accurate", you should get the S.U.I.T. sighting system with the matching top cover.

    the top cover you linked to is questionable at best. a better bet would be the DSA replacement top cover and i'd recommend an ACOG sight to go with it
    ...because the journey is the worthier part...The Shepherd's Tale

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    • #3
      Ls1FALimpala
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2009
      • 757

      Originally posted by CEDaytonaRydr
      I searched..



      Beyond that, I have no idea what's best for an FAL optics-wise.
      yea if u want to make record shots.. but yea the only compaint i have is the rear sight the opening is too small for me. http://www.dsarms.com/Tritium-Metric...ctinfo/SA58NS/ i was thinking about this but havnt found too much feedback.

      i want to see others opinions/advice.
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      • #4
        -hanko
        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
        CGN Contributor
        • Jul 2002
        • 14174

        Originally posted by CEDaytonaRydr
        I searched..

        Okay, so I've got a new (to me) FAL-type rifle but it just has the plain, ol' Iron Sights on it. Honestly, I wouldn't mind just running the Irons but these things are annoying; with my preferred cheek-weld, the base of the sight smacks my safety glasses almost every time!

        So, with that in mind, I think I'm going to get something a little more substantial. I was thinking about using this UTG Base because it seems like an easy replacement:

        Beyond that, I have no idea what's best for an FAL optics-wise. I've been told not to have great expectations for the accuracy of an FAL, so I don't want to waste $1000 on optics for it but I'm thinking about something that's appropriate for the weapon. Maybe a tactical scope, or red-dot with some magnification... I dunno...
        Searching here is not gonna' get you much info on fal's, let alone optics for them.

        You need to sign up with and search a little on the FAL Files.

        A good cheek weld will have you almost on top of the rear sight, that's the way it works.

        I would not put a UTG anything on an FAL. Good results have been had with the DSA mount, the ARMS #3 does a nice job also (speaking from personal experience). I've mounted both a Russian Kobra and a few EOtec's on various fal's , all work well. I ususally check accuracy and function on a new build with a DSA mount and a 1.5x6-30 Kahles scope, it's also sweet. An ACOG would also work well.

        As 9mmepiphany posted, the 'correct' glass is a SUIT sight with it's corresponding mount, they show up off and on, check the Marketplace on the FAL files.

        hth

        -hanko
        True wealth is time. Time to enjoy life.

        Life's journey is not to arrive safely in a well preserved body, but rather to slide in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "holy schit...what a ride"!!

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        • #5
          -hanko
          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
          CGN Contributor
          • Jul 2002
          • 14174

          Originally posted by donthatethemex
          yea if u want to make record shots.. but yea the only compaint i have is the rear sight the opening is too small for me.
          Drill out the opening a little??

          -hanko
          True wealth is time. Time to enjoy life.

          Life's journey is not to arrive safely in a well preserved body, but rather to slide in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "holy schit...what a ride"!!

          Heaven goes by favor. If it went by merit, you would stay out and your dog would go in. Mark Twain

          A man's soul can be judged by the way he treats his dog. Charles Doran

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          • #6
            gunsnrovers
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2005
            • 1672

            Spent a nice day at the range with my FAL and Aimpoint H1. Mounted on the DSA rail dust cover. I've heard mixed reviews of the ARMS version. The DSA mount is heavy, but it's rock solid.

            Iron sites aren't usable as the H1 base is directly in the way, but the cheek weld is almost identical to using the irons. Just raise my eyes a little and the dot picks up nicely.



            - Jeff
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            • #7
              dfletcher
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Dec 2006
              • 14772

              I used to use the DSA. It's solid and it allows for fairly low scope mounting. But it's kind of a pain to put on & off and if you don't tighten everything down just right the bolt may rub and you'll have malfunctions. And it looks a bit odd compared to the standard dust cover.

              I bought this: http://www.sarcoinc.com/stanag.html

              Although it sits higher I like the look better. You can get the dust cover with mount and a weaver base, put whatever type scope on it you prefer.
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              • #8
                Army
                Veteran Member
                • Oct 2005
                • 3915

                Originally posted by CEDaytonaRydr

                ...I've been told not to have great expectations for the accuracy of an FAL....
                They lied to you.
                "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself...A murderer is less to fear. The traitor is the plague."......Cicero

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                • #9
                  killshot44
                  Veteran Member
                  • Nov 2009
                  • 4072

                  Originally posted by gunsnrovers


                  I'm liking the tiger-stripes and the worn patina on the forend. Nice.

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                  • #10
                    vandal
                    Veteran Member
                    • Sep 2007
                    • 2781

                    For just a red dot like the H1 I'd probably go with the ARMS mount to save weight. 3-4 MOA gun and 4MOA dot, I don't think I'd notice any change in POI due to the mount. For a magnified optic I'd go with the DSA.

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                    • #11
                      blackfalcon
                      Member
                      • Aug 2008
                      • 375

                      The DSA's extreme duty scope mount is rock solid. The screws do not tighten against the receiver like some cheaper models will do. Scope is an Elcan Specter DR.

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                      • #12
                        CEDaytonaRydr
                        Veteran Member
                        • Feb 2010
                        • 4108

                        Originally posted by -hanko

                        As 9mmepiphany posted, the 'correct' glass is a SUIT sight with it's corresponding mount, they show up off and on, check the Marketplace on the FAL files.

                        hth

                        -hanko
                        How much does something like that usually run you? The typical $1,000...?

                        (I hope not )

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                        • #13
                          Barabas
                          Veteran Member
                          • Oct 2009
                          • 3370

                          Do NOT buy the UTG top cover. It's junk. I got one in a horse trade and only mounted it once. The locking lugs will fatigue and break over time not to mention the front contour where it meets the receiver doesn't match exactly.

                          Originally posted by gunsnrovers
                          Nice FAL, but I'm digging the Saudi grill and custom badges on the Disco more. I love '94-'95s.

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                          • #14
                            -hanko
                            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                            CGN Contributor
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 14174

                            Originally posted by CEDaytonaRydr
                            How much does something like that usually run you? The typical $1,000...?

                            (I hope not )
                            They're all used...with mount for one in VERY cherry condition...$300-ish. The tritium is dead, but FAL Files Optics area will give you info on replacing the tritium with new H3 .

                            From the standpoint of accuracy, it's an effin' BATTLE RIFLE; if you want to shoot MOA with a .308 it's a bolt gun or an accurized M14-semi...check pricing with the correct glass and go from there. If you're looking at hitting minute-of-enemy out to 600, the FAL does well.

                            -hanko
                            True wealth is time. Time to enjoy life.

                            Life's journey is not to arrive safely in a well preserved body, but rather to slide in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "holy schit...what a ride"!!

                            Heaven goes by favor. If it went by merit, you would stay out and your dog would go in. Mark Twain

                            A man's soul can be judged by the way he treats his dog. Charles Doran

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                              CEDaytonaRydr
                              Veteran Member
                              • Feb 2010
                              • 4108

                              Originally posted by -hanko
                              They're all used...with mount for one in VERY cherry condition...$300-ish. The tritium is dead, but FAL Files Optics area will give you info on replacing the tritium with new H3 .
                              Well, I guess I'll shop around and see what I can find. I'll PM you when I get something. Any suggestions on where to find one? I'll keep an eye out on the auction sights but do any surplus vendors stock them?

                              Thanks for your help!!!

                              From the standpoint of accuracy, it's an effin' BATTLE RIFLE; if you want to shoot MOA with a .308 it's a bolt gun or an accurized M14-semi...check pricing with the correct glass and go from there. If you're looking at hitting minute-of-enemy out to 600, the FAL does well.

                              -hanko
                              Yeah, I'm not looking to shoot 1 MOA with it. I just want a good, accurate (as opposed to precise), sight for a reasonable price...
                              Last edited by CEDaytonaRydr; 07-20-2010, 4:17 PM.

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