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    • Dec 2009
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    Buffer for 14.5"

    Does a 14.5" upper require a heavy buffer or will a standard buffer work?
  • #2
    Linus
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2007
    • 1290

    I'm guessing its a 14.5" upper with a carbine length gas system, which in this case a heavy buffer can improve cycling by slowing it down a bit. Do you have a Semi or Full auto (heavier) BCG? If you have a FA BCG that might be all you need.
    Last edited by Linus; 06-25-2010, 12:28 PM.
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    • #3
      Game Time
      Banned
      • Dec 2009
      • 167

      Originally posted by Linus
      I'm guessing its a 14.5" upper with a carbine length gas system, which in this case a heavy buffer can improve cycling by slowing it down a bit. Do you have a Semi or Full auto BCG? If you have a FA BCG that might be all you need.
      Yeah, it will be a carbine length gas system. I'm ordering a BCM 14.5" carbine with the full auto BCG. I'm just wondering since I'm placing the order, if I should get a heavier buffer. Maybe the Spike's ST-T2 if it's necessary.

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      • #4
        God Bless The Mauser
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2007
        • 1291

        I have an auto BCG and an H2 buffer in my BCM and it works great. I think an H3 buffer will even work.

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        • #5
          cmace22
          Veteran Member
          • Jan 2008
          • 2717

          I have a standard buffer on my carbine length 14.5 with a semi BCG and not a single problem!

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          • #6
            tomd1584
            Calguns Addict
            • Sep 2008
            • 5895

            I run a heavy buffer with my carbine length 14.5"

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            • #7
              damndave
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Oct 2008
              • 10858

              I ran a standard buffer and no problems at all

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              • #8
                xxINKxx
                Veteran Member
                • Jun 2008
                • 4289

                Originally posted by cmace22
                I have a standard buffer on my carbine length 14.5 with a semi BCG and not a single problem!
                Same here...2 uppers I have are built the same (14.5 carbine, with standard buffer) No issues
                "If a law is unjust, a man is not only right to disobey it, he is obligated to do so." - Thomas Jefferson

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                • #9
                  C_1
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2008
                  • 1504

                  I have a BCM 16" middy with an auto BCG and H buffer, it runs great. So I guess what Im trying to say, is.. an H buffer for your 14.5" wouldnt hurt..

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                  • #10
                    Linus
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2007
                    • 1290

                    An H buffer + a semi auto BCG will not hurt but increasing the weight of wither the buffer or BCG improves operation by slowing it down. Doesn't mean you need a heavy buffer or FA BCG to run reliably, its only required when short stroking is present.
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                    • #11
                      818gtiguy
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 1055

                      I run a H2 on my BCM carbine. Use to run a H, but the H2 is smoother and less muzzle rise. I put the H in my BCM middy.Check this article. The person who wrote it, is a REAL TEIR 1 Operator, not some wanna-be.. http://www.defensereview.com/the-big...m4-unreliable/
                      Last edited by 818gtiguy; 06-25-2010, 6:40 PM.

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                      • #12
                        Sam .223
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 1575

                        i'm using the standard buffer with my 14.5 upper and haven't had any issues.
                        5.56: reach out and touch someone.
                        458 SOCOM: reach out and knock someone down.

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                        • #13
                          doughboy334
                          Senior Member
                          • Mar 2008
                          • 2019

                          necropost but maybe you guys can help me

                          Just came back from zeroing my new BCM 14.5 mid-length with perm FCS556 comp.

                          I had a ton of FTFs, like every magazine had 1 or 2. I'm running a standard buffer with a semi auto carrier. I'm going to buy a H2 and see if this fixes the problem.

                          Besides that problem, gun's pretty amazing and light!

                          Edit: Ammo was Wolf FMJ 62 Gr

                          I also had my BCM 20" rifle upper (full auto BCG) on an A2 lower. That worked 100% flawlessly with the same mags I used in the middy.
                          Last edited by doughboy334; 10-06-2010, 1:02 AM.
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                          Originally posted by Jpach
                          Just do what M Sage and others have said to do, they know what theyr talkin about. Just dont urinate in your barrel and expect ur rifle to be ok. My buddy and I recently went shooting and he shot corrosive yugo ammo through his Mosin and figured he could just piss in the barrel and call it a day. Several days later the bolt was rusted shut but I guess the fouling wasnt TOO bad.

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                          • #14
                            818gtiguy
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2009
                            • 1055

                            Originally posted by doughboy334
                            necropost but maybe you guys can help me

                            Just came back from zeroing my new BCM 14.5 mid-length with perm FCS556 comp.

                            I had a ton of FTFs, like every magazine had 1 or 2. I'm running a standard buffer with a semi auto carrier. I'm going to buy a H2 and see if this fixes the problem.

                            Besides that problem, gun's pretty amazing and light!

                            Edit: Ammo was Wolf FMJ 62 Gr

                            I also had my BCM 20" rifle upper (full auto BCG) on an A2 lower. That worked 100% flawlessly with the same mags I used in the middy.
                            Might wanna try some different mags. How many different mags did you try? Most FTF issues that I have seen are from bad mags. Mostly 10/30 and 10/20 mags. My 2 cents: Get a 10/10 mag, use a H or H2 buffer , get a Quality F/A BCG(preferably BCM), and use some quality ammo(not that a BCM cant handle Wolf ammo)..
                            Last edited by 818gtiguy; 10-06-2010, 9:19 AM.

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                            • #15
                              NiteQwill
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Dec 2007
                              • 6368

                              Originally posted by doughboy334
                              necropost but maybe you guys can help me

                              Just came back from zeroing my new BCM 14.5 mid-length with perm FCS556 comp.

                              I had a ton of FTFs, like every magazine had 1 or 2. I'm running a standard buffer with a semi auto carrier. I'm going to buy a H2 and see if this fixes the problem.

                              Besides that problem, gun's pretty amazing and light!

                              Edit: Ammo was Wolf FMJ 62 Gr

                              I also had my BCM 20" rifle upper (full auto BCG) on an A2 lower. That worked 100% flawlessly with the same mags I used in the middy.
                              Buying a H2 buffer is like putting a bandaid on a bleeding laceration.

                              Get different magazines.

                              Switch upper and lowers and try to isolate the problem.

                              Check your FCG and make sure everything is installed properly.

                              Inspect your BCG and bolt (and everything inside).

                              Use different ammo (although Wolf is generally underpowered and has deep seated primers, it usually has no issues. I personally have fired 5-6k of wolf with no issues.).

                              The fate of the wounded rest in the hands of the ones who apply the first dressing.

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