AK-47's or any similar weapons

[icefire]

I have heard this before and some here have taken to whipping my butt for not believing this. I still have never seen proof Siagas are real AKs.
Please remember CMT made both Stag and for awhile Colt...that doesnt mean Stags are the same as Colts.

What about the markings on every Saiga, "Made in Russia by Ishmash"? that doesnt convince you they are real?

How much more real do you need? My Saiga uses mil-spec AK mags, is 7.62 caliber, and was made in Russia.

if thats not a "real" AK, what is?

[dieselpower]

I guess the only way for you to understand is to see for yourself. Let me know when you feel like field stripping a stock Saiga and an AK or two and I will let you use mine. You will find that the actions are identical. They operate the exact same, etc. The only differences are cosmetic or minor. I'm thinking of the bolt hold open on a Saiga, the different furniture, and the trigger group which has been moved rearward.

To make it easy to understand, is a car not the same car if it gets a paint job and different rims?

wheres canyon country? If its near Ventura I would like to take you up on that sometime. I have only shot AK47s, never broke one down and compaired to a Siaga. I know a buddy picked up a Rommy just before the ban and that thing jammed all the time. Another buddy had a mak90 and nothing could jam it. he has a 100drum and the thing never quit firing...ever.

[doc1buc]

What about the markings on every Saiga, "Made in Russia by Ishmash"? that doesnt convince you they are real?

How much more real do you need? My Saiga uses mil-spec AK mags, is 7.62 caliber, and was made in Russia.

if thats not a "real" AK, what is?

That just doesn't look right, the trigger housing that far back.

[dieselpower]

What about the markings on every Saiga, "Made in Russia by Ishmash"? that doesnt convince you they are real?

How much more real do you need? My Saiga uses mil-spec AK mags, is 7.62 caliber, and was made in Russia.

if thats not a "real" AK, what is?

a real AK....

[CSACANNONEER]

wheres canyon country? If its near Ventura I would like to take you up on that sometime. I have only shot AK47s, never broke one down and compaired to a Siaga. I know a buddy picked up a Rommy just before the ban and that thing jammed all the time. Another buddy had a mak90 and nothing could jam it. he has a 100drum and the thing never quit firing...ever.

Between Santa Clarita and Palmdale. Send me a PM and we can figure out a time and day.

[icefire]

Thats an old picture, before I did the trigger guard conversion. its in the right place now...I'll post a newer pic in a few days when I get home..That was just the 'bolt-on' shortcut until i could get the conversion parts..

[CSACANNONEER]

What about the markings on every Saiga, "Made in Russia by Ishmash"? that doesnt convince you they are real?

How much more real do you need? My Saiga uses mil-spec AK mags, is 7.62 caliber, and was made in Russia.

if thats not a "real" AK, what is?

How come I can't see the picture?

[icefire]

a real AK....

"real" AK's ARE made in the Ishmash factory...all others are not real. Saiga is the ONLY brand made there for civilian use...

[CSACANNONEER]

"real" AK's ARE made in the Ishmash factory...all others are not real. Saiga is the ONLY brand made there for civilian use...

No, "real" AKs are made in caves using only sticks and stones. Any that are made in factories are cheap fakes.

[HotRails]

Last time I was at Shooters Paradise in Oxnard CA, they had a Siaga 12.

Last time I was there they were treating anyone with OLL's as criminals. Im glad to see they have revised that policy. . .

[dieselpower]

Last time I was there they were treating anyone with OLL's as criminals. Im glad to see they have revised that policy. . .

money talks....they now have AKs Siagas, ARs, FALs...all for twice the price as Uncle Pauls.