FNH FS2000

[FNH5-7]

If I would like to purchase an FS 2000 and Cali convert it myself (BB, 10rnd mag, fake can), what parts need to be shipped to my FFL and what parts can be shipped straight to me?

I understand that if this were an AR, the lower MUST to be shipped to an FFL and the rest of the parts can be shipped straight to me, correct? but this isn't an AR and I'm confused.

I have no intention of using this rifle in an AW configuration. Reason for wanting the rifle shipped in parts is that:

1. Californicated versions already in the state are $500 dollars more than what they cost in the free states.
2. I've heard that some stores don't include the original non-Californistan parts that can be used in the free states.

I've searched through older FS2000 threads, but couldn't find my specific answer.




I've also read that I can take the BOLT ACTION route, have the gas regulator removed and have the rifle shipped as a bolt action and it only has to measure 27 or more, can someone clarify this for me? Is there any other details I should be aware of?

[Dreaded Claymore]

Huh?

What the hell is a fake "can"?

[Toast]

A fake suppressor, usually used to bring the barrel to a legal length.

[FNH5-7]

A fake can or a butt stock extension are used when barrel is too short or California rifle length is not met.

[sirgiles]

here you go. this has been around since 2008.

http://lanworldinc.com/ProductDetails.aspx?prodid=DPFS2KPK

[FNH5-7]

here you go. this has been around since 2008.

http://lanworldinc.com/ProductDetail...rodid=DPFS2KPK

Yes, I'm aware of that and is what I plan to do once the parts are in my hands. However, my question is, how do some people import the FS200 LEGALLY in parts before making them CA compliant? What part of this rifle is the one that needs to be shipped to an FFL to be drosed?

[Legasat]

I believe it must meet all requirements BEFORE it hits CA. Can't ship it here then make it CA legal.

[sirgiles]

Yes, I'm aware of that and is what I plan to do once the parts are in my hands. However, my question is, how do some people import the FS200 LEGALLY in parts before making them CA compliant? What part of this rifle is the one that needs to be shipped to an FFL to be drosed?

ive only handled my friends fn and i remember the serial on the upper near the rail. so i assume that this is the part that gets dros'ed. im sure someone can chime in to confirm or correct this.

[AlexDD]

It's the upper portion, not the stock.

[bomb_on_bus]

This project is too much work and money to have any fun ever using.


Sure you get around the CA laws but you end up with a greatly neutered gun that to me has no fun or function other then thumbing your nose at CA laws.

You can put the BB on it for 10 round capacity, make it a bolt action, extend the barrel with a permament attachment.

There are plenty of CA legal PS90's floating around but I have only seen 1 CA legal FS2000.

[Spaceghost]

I am not attacking you, but I think that is for the OP to decide. We should either help him in his endeavor or get the heck out of his way as long as it's legal. He expressed his intent to follow our retarded laws, so we should do our best to help and let him figure out if the cash/time/effort required is worth it.

This project is too much work and money to have any fun ever using.


Sure you get around the CA laws but you end up with a greatly neutered gun that to me has no fun or function other then thumbing your nose at CA laws.

You can put the BB on it for 10 round capacity, make it a bolt action, extend the barrel with a permament attachment.

There are plenty of CA legal PS90's floating around but I have only seen 1 CA legal FS2000.

[ZombieTactics]

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There are plenty of CA legal PS90's floating around but I have only seen 1 CA legal FS2000.

Hmmm ... TDS in Rocklin had a Californicated FS2000 about a week ago. Felt awesome in the hands. They sold it pretty quickly.

I've yet to see a PS90 yet in person, but I'd sure like to.

[dchang0]

There are a few ways to bring it into the state while avoiding the "California markup" that many in-state vendors have.

1) Have the out of state seller split the FS2000 up into its various different assemblies, and it's just a "collection of parts." IIRC, the upper assembly is the serialized part that needs to be sent through the FFL. However, there IS a serial number on the lower stock, so that might count as a serialized part too. If that's the case, have them send all the other non-serialized parts to you directly, especially the hammer pack and buttstock. There is no way the rifle will operate without those two pieces, so if the FFL is audited by the BATFE (like mine was when I was DROSing my FS2000), they won't give it a second look.

2) Have them simply convert it to bolt-action by removing the piston and send it on in. See http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s....php?p=2009284

3) Have them install the Raddlock FS2000 magazine lock and a fake can or barrel extension for you and send it in.

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=132548&page=3

4) Have them install a really-short 5-round magazine into the rifle without modifying the dust skirt inside the magwell AND install a fake can or barrel extension. Though you can still press the magazine release buttons, the magwell will keep the 5-round mag inside the rifle. The only way to remove it would be to use a pair of pliers or a hook to pull the magazine out OR disassemble the rifle to push the magwell out from the top. This is the method the seller took to transfer my FS2000 to me. It was easy, easy, easy.

[FNH5-7]

I am not attacking you, but I think that is for the OP to decide. We should either help him in his endeavor or get the heck out of his way as long as it's legal. He expressed his intent to follow our retarded laws, so we should do our best to help and let him figure out if the cash/time/effort required is worth it.

Thank you.

2) Have them simply convert it to bolt-action by removing the piston and send it on in. See http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s....php?p=2009284

I like this option best is there anything else I need? BB? 10 round mag in magwell? The piston can be sent directly to me correct?

[dchang0]

Thank you.



I like this option best is there anything else I need? BB? 10 round mag in magwell? The piston can be sent directly to me correct?

Nope, if it's a bolt-action gun, you don't need anything else, as it cannot violate the Roberti-Roos assault weapon law, which specifies that it must be a semi-automatic centerfire rifle to be a potential assault weapon. And yes, you are correct--you can have them send the gas piston directly to you.

I suggest that you have the seller completely disassemble the FS2000 and send you the gas piston, gas piston selector switch, tool kit, hammer pack, foregrip, bolt carrier group, magazine(s), and buttplate directly. The other two parts, the stock and the upper receiver, can go to the FFL with the box and the manual.

Just make sure they keep track of all the parts--the gas piston parts are pretty small. The other parts are pretty hard to lose.

The reason for this suggestion is to make it very easy to convince the receiving FFL that it's 100% safe for them to receive your transfer. Of course, if they're totally cool, then you only need to remove the gas piston.

BTW, if you choose to go featureless on your FS2000, you will have to remove the factory flash hider. A fake can won't cut it.