Currently Available Quality AK Magazines???

[4DSJW]

Just purchased and will pick up soon a Saiga 7.62x39 that will be my new "Utility Rifle". I will not be doing the conversion as I prefer to keep the mag release free and clear. My size preference for mags is 20 rounders which would be converted to 10 rounders outside of CA or bought as kits and converted here.

So with that in mind... who currently has good quality 20 round magazines available for sale either as kits or whole magazines. If I could find good quality translucent mags I would be in heaven but I have not been able to find anything doing a number of searches on the web.

Edit to Add- I will be adding a bullet guide so that I can use standard AK magazines and will modify the few Saiga mags that I end up with.

Thank you for your help!

[ddcorral2622]

Hungarian tankers magazines are 20 rounders I believe. I'm not quite sure where to get them are rebuild kits tho

[calibanman]

try copes, call them direct on these and they will break them down for you into kits for a buck.

http://www.copesdistributing.net/product_info.php?products_id=268

http://www.copesdistributing.net/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=ak+magazine&x=0&y=0

I have the tankers and they are top notch.

[C_1]

The best 20 rd AK mags are the Hungarian tanker mags. I don't know who carries them though.

You might wanna be careful with 922r (US parts count) because you're using standard AK mags, which takes it out of 'sporting' configuration. I'm no expert so correct me if Im wrong..

[4DSJW]

You might wanna be careful with 922r (US parts count) because you're using standard AK mags, which takes it out of 'sporting' configuration. I'm no expert so correct me if Im wrong..

I thought that you had to change the configuration of the actual rifle to get into the compliance issues but I don't know that for sure. If someone knows factually that simply using an original AK magazine in an otherwise unaltered Saiga causes a compliance issue please let me know.

Does anyone have any experience with the polymer/plastic magazines that are available... are there any that are well made, function without an issue, and hold up???

Thanks for all the comments so far!

[Quiet]

Using AK mags will trigger 922r.

In order to still be "sporting purpose", it has to be a semi-auto centerfire rifle with a capacity of 10 rounds or less.

[damndave]

If you use AK mags you will need a bullet button I believe.

[C_1]

I'm pretty sure using AK mags, even when it's a 10 rounder, and adding a bullet guide, will trigger 922r. Why do you want to use AK mags if they are only 10 rds? Why not just get OEM Saiga 10 rd mags? Then if you really want to, you can have some 30 rd Surefire rebuild kits on standby..

[4DSJW]

Using AK mags will trigger 922r. In order to still be "sporting purpose", it has to be a semi-auto centerfire rifle with a capacity of 10 rounds or less.

So I'm guessing that even if I used 10 round magazines that are designed for an AK I would still trigger 922r. Is that correct?

I'm pretty sure using AK mags, even when it's a 10 rounder, and adding a bullet guide, will trigger 922r. Why do you want to use AK mags if they are only 10 rds? Why not just get OEM Saiga 10 rd mags? Then if you really want to, you can have some 30 rd Surefire rebuild kits on standby..

C_1 you are on the money on the mag issue but may have a better idea than I did. Does anyone know for sure if simply installing the bullet guide but not using AK magazines will trigger 922r?

Thank you for the help!

[damndave]

You should try here...

http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?act=idx

I got a lot of helpful info on there when I converted my Saiga 223

[4DSJW]

You should try here...

http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?act=idx

I got a lot of helpful info on there when I converted my Saiga 223

I have spent quite a lot of time on that site but went back to do some homework. Neither of the 922r compliance worksheets stickied at the top of the page answered the specific questions but I was able to backtrack to GunWiki where I found a page specifically related to Saiga's and 922r that stated, "At any rate, it is not necessary to alter a Saiga for 922(r) compliance unless it has ceased to be a sporting rifle. Adding a pistol grip or folding stock to one absolutely triggers 922(r). However, it is not certain that converting one to accept AK-47 magazines automatically triggers a need for 922(r) compliance."

Not a definitive answer but getting closer. Since I am not trying to fundamentally change the sporting configuration there is some hope. I will continue searching but for now the questions still remain-

-Does the addition of a bullet guide alone trigger 922r?

-Does the use of 10 round AK magazines (with said BG) trigger 922r?

Any help would be greatly appreciated if someone knows the answers or can point me to the source material... in plain English since I'm no good at reading legalease.

Thanks!

[C_1]

It has been gone over before, and there really is no definite answer. No one has ever been popped for 922r. But if want to be a test case by modifying your gun, adding a bullet guide, to use AK mags (5, 10, 20, 30, 40, 75 rds), then be our guest. Don't expect CGF to help ya though.. You know exactly what you are doing by using AK mags. I think we can all agree that AK mags are non sporting. That's why Saiga went through the trouble of changing mags and whatnot. But Im no expert and I guess it's up to you how to interpret the law..

[C_1]

Sorry if I come off as an a?$hole, but I don't want ya getting in trouble. Adding a bullet, using AK mags, without the correct amount if US parts, is basically playing with fire. Like I said, no one has been prosecuted for 922r, but Im sure you don't want the headaches of being the test case. Either way, hope all is well and good luck to ya bro..

[Crawfish141]

This

http://www.copesdistributing.net/product_info.php?products_id=268

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This

http://www.copesdistributing.net/product_info.php?products_id=2488

[motorhead]

yup. there's a reason it was imported not accepting standard ak (military) mags. ANY mods to the original "sporting" cofiguration brings the 922.
copes is great for kits.