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  • Jenyus
    Junior Member
    • Apr 2010
    • 19

    Bullet button help

    newbe question. get a complete Noveske n4 lower, the bullet button will not release, it will not do anything. im trying to replace it but can seem to find a way to get it out. thanks for any help

    Last edited by Jenyus; 05-26-2011, 7:49 PM.
  • #2
    Baxter
    Senior Member
    • May 2009
    • 1333

    Seems you have a maglock. The little hole is for an allen wrench. Turn to the left and you can remove mag lock and put in a bb.
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    • #3
      telcolineman
      Veteran Member
      • Jun 2008
      • 2624

      That is a Prince 50 mag lock, It takes a .035 allen wrench to back out the screw and drop the mag
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      • #4
        Jenyus
        Junior Member
        • Apr 2010
        • 19

        You guys are a big help. Thanks alot

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        • #5
          CHS
          Moderator Emeritus
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Jan 2008
          • 11338

          That's not a bullet button. That's a magazine lock.

          You will have to top-load in order to use your rifle legally.

          If you want a bullet button:
          Please read the Calguns Wiki
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          --Cesare, Marquis of Beccaria, "On Crimes and Punishment"

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          • #6
            Jokar2836
            Member
            • Jul 2009
            • 173

            Also another noob question about a bullet button. Does a bullet button stop the magazine at a certain point in the mag well as to a regular magazines release button allows you to load it all the way up into the action slot. The reason why im asking is i bought two magazines that are 10/20 mags and i have one mag that are just straight 10 rounds. I have not had a FTL with my 10 round but it seems that my action is grabbing the round from the top of my 10/20's magazine to be able to slide the round into the chamber. Hopefully i made sense in my description. BTW i ordered my bullet button from riflegear its that helps a bit. Thanks in advance.
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            • #7
              CHS
              Moderator Emeritus
              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
              • Jan 2008
              • 11338

              Originally posted by Jokar2836
              Also another noob question about a bullet button. Does a bullet button stop the magazine at a certain point in the mag well as to a regular magazines release button allows you to load it all the way up into the action slot. The reason why im asking is i bought two magazines that are 10/20 mags and i have one mag that are just straight 10 rounds. I have not had a FTL with my 10 round but it seems that my action is grabbing the round from the top of my 10/20's magazine to be able to slide the round into the chamber. Hopefully i made sense in my description. BTW i ordered my bullet button from riflegear its that helps a bit. Thanks in advance.
              Internal to the receiver, the bullet button changes nothing. It still works exactly like a standard magazine release. It doesn't prevent any type of magazine from being inserted.

              If you're having issues with the 10/20 magazines, it's either the magazines or your receiver itself could be out of spec. But it won't be the bullet button.
              Please read the Calguns Wiki
              Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes...Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.
              --Cesare, Marquis of Beccaria, "On Crimes and Punishment"

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              • #8
                NiteQwill
                Calguns Addict
                • Dec 2007
                • 6368

                Loading a magazine and allowing the bolt to slide forward SHOULD chamber a round.

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                • #9
                  Jokar2836
                  Member
                  • Jul 2009
                  • 173

                  Ok thanks for the quick help. I know it should chamber the round, but like i said its not for some reason. And im even smacking the bottem of the magazine to try to lock it up higher into the magwell.
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                  • #10
                    abusalim81
                    Member
                    • Oct 2008
                    • 455

                    Originally posted by bdsmchs
                    That's not a bullet button. That's a magazine lock.

                    You will have to top-load in order to use your rifle legally.

                    If you want a bullet button:
                    http://riflegear.com/p-58-bullet-button.aspx
                    YEAH! What he said...

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                    • #11
                      neal0124
                      Senior Member
                      • Jul 2009
                      • 529

                      Originally posted by Jokar2836
                      Ok thanks for the quick help. I know it should chamber the round, but like i said its not for some reason. And im even smacking the bottem of the magazine to try to lock it up higher into the magwell.
                      Try putting one less round in the culprit magazine or load the mag with the bolt locked back. The converted mags may not allow enough room for the rounds to get compressed by the bcg when you insert the mag with the bolt in battery.

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                      • #12
                        Cokebottle
                        Seņor Member
                        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                        • Oct 2009
                        • 32373

                        Originally posted by telcolineman
                        That is a Prince 50 mag lock, It takes a .035 allen wrench to back out the screw and drop the mag
                        NEGATIVE in California!!!!!!!!!

                        Back out the screw and you have created an assault weapon!

                        Disassemble the upper from the lower, back out the allen screw, depress the button, spin the mag catch out, remove the P50, throw it in the garbage, and install a modern bullet button.
                        - Rich

                        Originally posted by dantodd
                        A just government will not be overthrown by force or violence because the people have no incentive to overthrow a just government. If a small minority of people attempt such an insurrection to grab power and enslave the people, the RKBA of the whole is our insurance against their success.

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                        • #13
                          Cokebottle
                          Seņor Member
                          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                          • Oct 2009
                          • 32373

                          Originally posted by neal0124
                          Try putting one less round in the culprit magazine or load the mag with the bolt locked back. The converted mags may not allow enough room for the rounds to get compressed by the bcg when you insert the mag with the bolt in battery.
                          This

                          The 10/20 and 10/30 PMags are pretty well known for this.
                          There is just enough flex in the plastic feedlips that there have been many reports that it's possible to get an 11th round into the magazines. Later revisions made slight changes to "tighten them up" to prevent this from happening, with the result that the 10th round is in there very tightly and often does not allow the mag to properly seat when the bolt is not pulled back.
                          - Rich

                          Originally posted by dantodd
                          A just government will not be overthrown by force or violence because the people have no incentive to overthrow a just government. If a small minority of people attempt such an insurrection to grab power and enslave the people, the RKBA of the whole is our insurance against their success.

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                          • #14
                            telcolineman
                            Veteran Member
                            • Jun 2008
                            • 2624

                            Originally posted by Cokebottle
                            NEGATIVE in California!!!!!!!!!

                            Back out the screw and you have created an assault weapon!

                            Disassemble the upper from the lower, back out the allen screw, depress the button, spin the mag catch out, remove the P50, throw it in the garbage, and install a modern bullet button.
                            I was not referring to dropping the mag at the range, Merely when the rifle is disassembled to install a regular bullet button. This was in no way a reference to making the rifle an AW
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                            • #15
                              Cokebottle
                              Seņor Member
                              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                              • Oct 2009
                              • 32373

                              Originally posted by telcolineman
                              I was not referring to dropping the mag at the range, Merely when the rifle is disassembled to install a regular bullet button. This was in no way a reference to making the rifle an AW
                              I know that's what you meant, but given the OP didn't recognize the P50 from the BB, I felt clarification was needed.
                              - Rich

                              Originally posted by dantodd
                              A just government will not be overthrown by force or violence because the people have no incentive to overthrow a just government. If a small minority of people attempt such an insurrection to grab power and enslave the people, the RKBA of the whole is our insurance against their success.

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