UTG rails Why Not?

[moshpit]

Are you kidding me? There are people who carry rifles every day and shouldn't be doing so.

Are you kidding me? I know SOME soldiers can be rather dorkish and couldn't hit the broad side of a barn, but when they shoot straight, and accurate, what more do you want? I'm sorry, but so far, I haven't seen a single qualification for anybody in this thread that makes them more qualified then a US Army infantryman to tell me what punishment he feels comfortable giving a certain rifle. If he had then gone on to shoot like a carpal tunnel syndrome victim, I'd pay him less mind.

[moshpit]

sooo what's up with the full auto then?

He said it rather off the cuff. You can put as much as you want to into the statement, but then focusing on that is a lot easier then the FAIL of the brand trolls to back themselves up worth a darn, which of course, the thread is about...

[tomd1584]

Are you kidding me? I know SOME soldiers can be rather dorkish and couldn't hit the broad side of a barn, but when they shoot straight, and accurate, what more do you want? I'm sorry, but so far, I haven't seen a single qualification for anybody in this thread that makes them more qualified then a US Army infantryman to tell me what punishment he feels comfortable giving a certain rifle. If he had then gone on to shoot like a carpal tunnel syndrome victim, I'd pay him less mind.

Please explain the paces you've put this UTG rail through.

We know you've only had it on your rifle for about 2 weeks, from your previous posts.

edit: maybe an AAR?

[NiteQwill]

Are you kidding me? I know SOME soldiers can be rather dorkish and couldn't hit the broad side of a barn, but when they shoot straight, and accurate, what more do you want? I'm sorry, but so far, I haven't seen a single qualification for anybody in this thread that makes them more qualified then a US Army infantryman to tell me what punishment he feels comfortable giving a certain rifle. If he had then gone on to shoot like a carpal tunnel syndrome victim, I'd pay him less mind.

I've lived in the sh*ts with 11B/C's alongside with me. I certainly know what punishment our rifles take and can attest that UTG will not survive the environment we live in.

Ever use a rifle to pry a door open? Smash windows? As crowbar when everything else inside your vehicle is blown up? After a firing a full battle load (and more) making it so damn hot you're tempted to piss on your own barrel?

[shark92651]

Mosh, isn't the rail pictured on your rifle a non-free float version in that it sits on or locks into the end cap? (I could be wrong because I have an admitted very little experience with installing UTG handguards, although the one experience I had was very frustrating since it didn't mount properly at all) If so then YES a user-install with no special tools needed is indeed a feature for a true free-float rail like the DD Omega 7.0. Anytime a user can install a true free-float rail without having to punch out taper pins and replace barrel nuts is a nice feature.

[moshpit]

I've lived in the sh*ts with 11B/C's alongside with me. I certainly know what punishment our rifles take and can attest that UTG will not survive the environment we live in.

Ever use a rifle to pry a door open? Smash windows? As crowbar when everything else inside your vehicle is blown up? After a firing a full battle load (and more) making it so damn hot you're tempted to piss on your own barrel?

Prying a vehicle door open, no, I expect the stock will break long before I'll have to worry about the handguards there. Seems like plastic will be more of a concern, wouldn't you say?

Smash windows? You are joking, right? I think I got that covered. As a crowbar? See the plastic stock statement. I'll have other parts of the rifle in trouble long before the handguard is. Things on the ends or sticking out. Or did that little bit of logic escape you while trying to shoot down UTG? Have you seen a UTG broken in combat is what you're saying? If so, I'm all ears.

The making it so hot you want to piss on it, yeah, done that. Several times already. She handles it just fine, no noticeable issues so far. Next?

[ar15barrels]

Mosh, isn't the rail pictured on your rifle a non-free float version in that it sits on or locks into the end cap? (I could be wrong because I have an admitted very little experience with installing UTG handguards, although the one experience I had was very frustrating since it didn't mount properly at all) If so then YES a user-install with no special tools needed is indeed a feature for a true free-float rail like the DD Omega 7.0. Anytime a user can install a true free-float rail without having to punch out taper pins and replace barrel nuts is a nice feature.

I guarantee that you are wrong and he's going to make you prove it before he believes anything you say.
He will have the luxury of posting from a manufacturer's website, but you won't be allowed such luxury.
You will be required to bring your own expert military witness to the table.
Blood and urine samples will be required of all witnesses.

[moshpit]

Mosh, isn't the rail pictured on your rifle a non-free float version in that it sits on or locks into the end cap? (I could be wrong because I have an admitted very little experience with installing UTG handguards, although the one experience I had was very frustrating since it didn't mount properly at all) If so then YES a user-install with no special tools needed is indeed a feature for a true free-float rail like the DD Omega 7.0. Anytime a user can install a true free-float rail without having to punch out taper pins and replace barrel nuts is a nice feature.

Did not know that! Good to know. Thank you for not being like some of the others around here and just making your point with facts. That's rather refreshing.

[moshpit]

I guarantee that you are wrong and he's going to make you prove it before he believes anything you say.
He will have the luxury of posting from a manufacturer's website, but you won't be allowed such luxury.
You will be required to bring your own expert military witness to the table.
Blood and urine samples will be required of all witnesses.

Shows how much you know, I posted in the same minute you did. Read and weep. You know nothing about me. I know you are a brand snob. Keep on trying!

[ar15barrels]

Did not know that! Good to know.

There's a lot you don't know.
We won't hold it against you though.

Shows how much you know, I posted in the same minute you did. Read and weep. You know nothing about me. I know you are a brand snob. I have one up on ya.

I know a lot about AR-15's.
I don't need to say how much because my reputation precedes me.

[i1800collect]

Prying a vehicle door open, no, I expect the stock will break long before I'll have to worry about the handguards there. Seems like plastic will be more of a concern, wouldn't you say?

Smash windows? You are joking, right? I think I got that covered. As a crowbar? See the plastic stock statement. I'll have other parts of the rifle in trouble long before the handguard is. Things on the ends or sticking out. Or did that little bit of logic escape you while trying to shoot down UTG? Have you seen a UTG broken in combat is what you're saying? If so, I'm all ears.

The making it so hot you want to piss on it, yeah, done that. Several times already. She handles it just fine, no noticeable issues so far. Next?

oh. man. ladies and gentlemen, it just got very armchair commando in here.

[ar15barrels]

oh. man. ladies and gentlemen, it just got very armchair commando in here.

Get your boots.
It's gonna get even deeper before it's over...

[moshpit]

There's a lot you don't know.
We won't hold it against you though.



I know a lot about AR-15's.
I don't need to say how much because my reputation precedes me.

Honestly, I'm pretty sure you know what I'm thinking about what you can do with your reputation. The only rep you have with me is that you're a brand snob, and I've seen a thousand of you in the computer industry for 2 decades now. Big whoop.

[NiteQwill]

Prying a vehicle door open, no, I expect the stock will break long before I'll have to worry about the handguards there.

Nope, the Troy ff rails didn't break. My buddy didn't use the barrel, he used the rail system.

Have you seen a UTG broken in combat is what you're saying?

Nope, because trash like that would never make its way to a Soldier whose life depends on a rifle.

[ar15barrels]

Honestly, I'm pretty sure you know what I'm thinking about what you can do with your reputation.

Why don't you tell me anyways.
It will help the length of our bans.