So a guy comes into my work, he is a usual customer and we talk guns every now and then. He says he has an AK rifle he is looking to get rid of, he never used it blah blah. So I tell him a little about OLL's and evil features etc. He doesn't know the brand, so I tell him to try and find out for me, so if it happens to be an OLL I might buy it from him. Rather than find out the brand for me, today he just brings the rifle to my work( Minus the pistol grip, I told him about that part, but he still ran the risk of it being a listed lower). BRAND: Made in China. Model AK47S. Imported by Golden State firearms. I looked on the bannned list, and it listed Made in China Model AK47 as banned, but nothing about the AK47S model. Is this thing good to go? (provided it is featureless or Mag locked). Anyone heard of the Golden State firearms company before? Thanks guys.
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It depends on how anal the transfer dealer wants to be. Technically the make and model has to match EXACTLY. If it doesn't, then...
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OK I just checked again and the Made in China AK47S is INDEED a listed gun under Roberti Roos (Appendix A on the flowchart). So no go. Hope he has a good hiding place for the thing if it's not registered...Last edited by darkest2000; 04-23-2010, 3:51 PM.Comment
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Originally posted by dantoddA just government will not be overthrown by force or violence because the people have no incentive to overthrow a just government. If a small minority of people attempt such an insurrection to grab power and enslave the people, the RKBA of the whole is our insurance against their success.Comment
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just by name and model, i doubt who will do the transfer between you and your co-worker. maybe he can sell you the parts, good luck finding an off-list AK receiver. like 69mach1 said.... stay away or else... you will pay!Originally posted by KestryllBoy, you just aren't too bright are you?
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FELONY ALERT.....FELONY ALERT!!!!!!There are 3 kinds of people in this world.
The wise, learn from the mistakes of others.
The smart, learn from their own mistakes.
The others, well......they just never learn.
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Disassemble and buy it as a parts kit and get a US receiver flat and bend your own, Otherwise it's an AW. Or tell him to sell it out of stateNRA Life MemberComment
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Easy with an AR... just ask the seller to remove all of the parts from the lower and buy everything else (there's still legal issues with the seller disposing of the lower).
Not so easy with the AK... the receiver would have to be torch-cut in 3 places with at least 1/4" of material blasted out by the torch.
Bandsaw cutting isn't legal.- Rich

Originally posted by dantoddA just government will not be overthrown by force or violence because the people have no incentive to overthrow a just government. If a small minority of people attempt such an insurrection to grab power and enslave the people, the RKBA of the whole is our insurance against their success.Comment
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Ok, sounds like he already knew it was on the list. Guess he is too lazy to demil it and sell as a parts kit either.So a guy comes into my work, he is a usual customer and we talk guns every now and then. He says he has an AK rifle he is looking to get rid of, he never used it blah blah. So I tell him a little about OLL's and evil features etc. He doesn't know the brand, so I tell him to try and find out for me, so if it happens to be an OLL I might buy it from him. Rather than find out the brand for me, today he just brings the rifle to my work( Minus the pistol grip, I told him about that part, but he still ran the risk of it being a listed lower). BRAND: Made in China. Model AK47S. Imported by Golden State firearms. I looked on the bannned list, and it listed Made in China Model AK47 as banned, but nothing about the AK47S model. Is this thing good to go? (provided it is featureless or Mag locked). Anyone heard of the Golden State firearms company before? Thanks guys.
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It's more involved than that.
If it is unregistered (sounds like it is), then he needs to contact an AW-friendly attorney and arrange to surrender it to the police through the attorney.
Simply transporting it in California is a felony, on top of the felony of possession.- Rich

Originally posted by dantoddA just government will not be overthrown by force or violence because the people have no incentive to overthrow a just government. If a small minority of people attempt such an insurrection to grab power and enslave the people, the RKBA of the whole is our insurance against their success.Comment
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Op asked about Golden State Arms :
Golden State Arms Distributors, Inc. (GSAD) was incorporated in California in July 1984. This business was a surplus arms importer, with a retail store located at 1097 Aviation Blvd. in Hermosa Beach, CA (N/W corner of Prospect at Aviation). They utilized a warehouse at 630 Mary Ann Drive in Redondo Beach, CA. The importer marking on a number of their surplus imports indicated GSAD MANH. BEA., CA, presumably for Manhattan Beach, CA.
This company and it's owner were not affiliated with Golden State Arms of Pasadena, CA (owned by Seymour Zieber), which closed in Oct 1966.
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