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  • dcguillory
    Member
    • Feb 2010
    • 214

    Mag Falls Out When I pull The Trigger!!?

    Dpms LR-.308 upper on CMMG lower put together by Cold War Shooters. They sold to me with a crappy C-products mag. The BB is nice and tight. When I live fire or dry fire the mag falls out when I pull the trigger 50% of the time. Also falls out when 20% of the time when I release the bolt. Havent had a chance to try any other brand of magazine yet. Any advice?
    1 Kings 20:11
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    thevic
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2010
    • 1910

    id check your mag release. what do you have?

    i have a raddlock and noticed if i losen the mag release per instructions (4 turns). my pmags fall out first shot. so i do 3 turns instead
    Last edited by thevic; 04-16-2010, 1:06 AM.
    Victor M.

    Spartan Precision Rifles 07 FFL/SOT
    Caldwell, ID

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    • #3
      aermotor
      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
      • Apr 2009
      • 2566

      OP: That's amazing... well, but not. Strange. Make sure you're BB is nice and tight.

      Originally posted by thevic
      id check your mag release. what do you have?

      i have a raddlock and noticed if i losen the mag release per instructions (4 turns). my pmags fall out first shot. so i do 3 turns instead
      Uhhh... not you don't loosen it so you're mags fall out or so that you have a detachable mag. Okay good.

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      • #4
        incredablehefey
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2010
        • 1853

        do you hear a "snap" when you insert the mag... you know the noise that the mag catch makes when it locks into the mag??? because if you dont the mag is not inserted all the way, or its being stopped by something. You could try locking the bolt back then inserting the mag, if that dont work pull the back take down pin, pivot the upper away from the lower a bit and inserting the mag. in any event something is wrong, you could try different mags but id go back to seller and make sure they understand that it is not ok to sell you incorrect or defective products
        "The need in public and private life is common sense, decency, courage." - President Roosevelt

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        • #5
          thevic
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2010
          • 1910

          ohh im soo sorry

          if i turn out the mag release 4 turns the mag falls out.

          same crap
          Victor M.

          Spartan Precision Rifles 07 FFL/SOT
          Caldwell, ID

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          • #6
            dcguillory
            Member
            • Feb 2010
            • 214

            I tightened up the bullet button pretty good already and that did not help. Coldwarshooters said I could mail them the mag and they would mail a DPMS mag if/when they got one. This is my first rifle but I take everything to an experienced smith (independence armory in petaluma) I think I will crank down the BB some more if possible and see what happens. It was mighty embarrassing at the range when It was happening. Had a Army buddy standing behind me telling me what to do since it was my first time learning A2 sights and he thought I was just a tard that couldn't put a mag in all the way. Thanks the a the advice guys.
            1 Kings 20:11

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            • #7
              dcguillory
              Member
              • Feb 2010
              • 214

              when I say Army buddy I mean he was in the Army and is my buddy. Obviously you can tell by the text I was never in the Army. I do have 5 kids and 12 dogs so I kinda have battle training every day.
              1 Kings 20:11

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              • #8
                Sh00tFurst
                Member
                • Apr 2010
                • 447

                The mag catch is my first guess.

                Take it out and try to bend that thing in more. You can simply use a hammer to do it.

                I had the same problem once. If I turned the rifle upside down, grabbed onto the mag, and shake it, the mag would come undone. I ended up by fixing that problem by doing what I just mentioned.

                The mag catch might simply be just a little off angle. You need to bring that in more so that it can properly catch onto the mag.

                Give that a try. If it doesn't work, let me know.
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                • #9
                  Sh00tFurst
                  Member
                  • Apr 2010
                  • 447

                  Actually, try different mags.

                  Put the mag in, turn rifle upside down over a bed, grab magazine only and try to shake it off.

                  Does the rifle fall onto the bed? Does it do this with all the mags?
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                  • #10
                    E Pluribus Unum
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Dec 2006
                    • 8098

                    Try putting the magazine in with the bolt locked back. Sometimes with the bolt forward, the bullets in the mag keep the mag from fully latching.
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                    • #11
                      tenpercentfirearms
                      Vendor/Retailer
                      • Apr 2005
                      • 13007

                      On the Armalite AR10 system, when using regular AR15 mag catches, this was a problem. The Armalite AR10 mag catch was just a little beefier even though it doesn't look like it and it always gives positive retention. I too suspect the mag catch more than the magazines.
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                      • #12
                        Lissauer
                        Member
                        • Jun 2007
                        • 464

                        And I thought it was a new California saftey device
                        The next time someone talks in favor of gun control, please remind them of this history lesson.

                        With guns, we are 'citizens.'

                        Without them, we are 'subjects'.

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                        • #13
                          Sh00tFurst
                          Member
                          • Apr 2010
                          • 447

                          Originally posted by Lissauer
                          And I thought it was a new California saftey device
                          The mag catch has nothing to do with being a "California safety device." That part is in all AR's.

                          Just saying.
                          WTB: 10-round magazines for G21SF (with ambi-cuts)

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                          • #14
                            shark92651
                            Vendor/Retailer
                            • Oct 2006
                            • 5431

                            Originally posted by tenpercentfirearms
                            On the Armalite AR10 system, when using regular AR15 mag catches, this was a problem. The Armalite AR10 mag catch was just a little beefier even though it doesn't look like it and it always gives positive retention. I too suspect the mag catch more than the magazines.


                            Same problem in my N6. At first I used an AR15 mag catch but I could pull out the mag by hand. I switched to an AR10 mag catch, problem solved.
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                            • #15
                              Sh00tFurst
                              Member
                              • Apr 2010
                              • 447

                              Ah, this is what google turned up...

                              As a note the AR10 mag catch has a slight "bend" to it. It allows the catch to set farther in the magwell, this catches the non-parallel mag sidewalls better as it sets in the parrlele walls of the mag well.
                              10 right, 15 left, notice the slight bend.

                              Almost halfway down this page... http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=62&t=378850
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