California leagal rifle barrel length?

[jdberger]

Its also dependant on where you live. An SBR is NOT a Federal Felony if you have applied for the proper SBR tax stamps with your Form 4 and get it approved through the BATF. It consists of thorough background check which usually takes anywhere from 2-5 months and a $200 one time tax.

I am going through the process of SBRing my Colt Law Enforcement Carbines and I am a California resident living in Oregon part time. It can be done and people have done it in California. I was told in order for me to bring these into California I have to apply for a "Dangerous Weapons Permit" which I will comply with if I tend to retire in California.

To answer the OP question like everyone else has said a 16 inch barrel is as short as you can go with an OAL of 30" in California.

Right, but let's get the OP walking before he runs, eh?

CA gun laws are confusing enough.

SBRs, SBSs and AOWs are advanced coursework.

[Z ME FLY]

Yes, you can attach a forward grip to a handgun, once you get BATFE approval and your tax stamp.

I think the Magpul AFG looks better. (same gun as above)

I would do the trust route... but I'm broke and don't have the $$$ to setup one properly and the $200 stamp... Because once one gets a stamp, I gotta do it to a couple of others.

[dousan]

I know this comes off stupid question so I apologize

but min barrell length is 16"
rifle gear sells a 14.5" barrell I was looking to pick up
that would be illegal? I am confused since rifle gear is good people
do I have to go to overall rifle lenght at that point (non collapsable)?

please clear my confusion. Thanks

[IsaacGlass]

I know this comes off stupid question so I apologize

but min barrell length is 16"
rifle gear sells a 14.5" barrell I was looking to pick up
that would be illegal? I am confused since rifle gear is good people
do I have to go to overall rifle lenght at that point (non collapsable)?

please clear my confusion. Thanks

They will attach a 2" FH or MB permanently on it to make it legal.

[dousan]

Ah. I c

thanks
maybe I'll pick one up today after work (this day is moving so slow, lower is ready for pickup)

[Z.1]

correct me if i'm wrong, but just to be clear, it's my understanding that for a folding stock the 30" OAL applies to a rifle that can be fired only from the extended position (i.e. cannot be fired if the stock is folded)
...that is to say that a rifle with a folding stock could be less than 30" while folded as long as it cannot be fired while the stock is in that position?

sorry to befuddle and confound the issue more. stupid CA gun laws.

ETA: not sure of any rifles this actually applies to, but i believe that is what the law states

[jdberger]

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Is the rifle's overall length less than 30 inches? If less than 30 inches, can the rifle be fired in the shortest configuration?

If yes, it violates PC 12276.1 (a)(3)

[I Sleep With My AK]

These "assault-pistols" are badass... How accurate are these? Can these be configured to fire 5.56, 6.8, or 7.62?

Edit: I couldn't open the flow chart...

[Z ME FLY]

correct me if i'm wrong, but just to be clear, it's my understanding that for a folding stock the 30" OAL applies to a rifle that can be fired only from the extended position (i.e. cannot be fired if the stock is folded)
...that is to say that a rifle with a folding stock could be less than 30" while folded as long as it cannot be fired while the stock is in that position?

sorry to befuddle and confound the issue more. stupid CA gun laws.

ETA: not sure of any rifles this actually applies to, but i believe that is what the law states

Couldn't follow what exactly you were asking but...

If your rifle when folded is less than 30" OAL then you have to fix the stock or get something to make it 30" OAL

[slappomatt]

what about that kel-tek .223 rifle that hinges in the middle. its not usable when folded in half but its shorter than 30" when it is. that would fit your scenario.

[jdberger]

what about that kel-tek .223 rifle that hinges in the middle. its not usable when folded in half but its shorter than 30" when it is. that would fit your scenario.

Look here.

[Endless]

Right, but let's get the OP walking before he runs, eh?

CA gun laws are confusing enough.

SBRs, SBSs and AOWs are advanced coursework.

Fair enough. I totally agree with you.

[Z ME FLY]

what about that kel-tek .223 rifle that hinges in the middle. its not usable when folded in half but its shorter than 30" when it is. that would fit your scenario.

It folds in half but that is the same concept as splitting the ar in two. It is not a firearm it is just two parts.

OP

What exactly are you looking for? Do you want an AR pistol? Do you want an AR15? How much do you want to spend?

[I Sleep With My AK]

What exactly are you looking for? Do you want an AR pistol? Do you want an AR15? How much do you want to spend?

The AR pistols look really fun/cool. I would probably want an AK pistol. I've never seen or shot a AR pistol so I wouldn't want to drop $2,000 on the XCR pistol not knowing what I'm going to get. (it does look pretty badass though )

But I herd AR pistols are really loud. How loud?
How much less effective would the 5.56 or 7.62 be when fired from an AR pistol vs a standard 16"+ barrel?

[I Sleep With My AK]

How much would it cost to make something like this? I've been looking at AK pistols and this is the sexiest one I've seen. All I know is that the AFG costs $35...