OLL opinion

[700338LM]

Would like to ask the experts here if this is an OLL.
Probably been answered before, but I sure can't find it. I have tried to research this lower using the search available here.
I cannot find any info on this lower. Flow chart appendix B does list Ordnance Inc.
Is the Inc. the same as Co. ?

The Lower I am asking about is made by Ordnance Design Co. Santa Clara CA
Model is an ER15.
It is about 25-30 years old.


Thanks in advance for your consideration.

[b.faust]

Are you sure it's not EA-15 (eagle arms)?
(If so, it's on the list, so: no go)

And I believe anything by Ordnance, Inc. is 'on list'
(Also no go)

[700338LM]

No, it is stamped Model ER15 it does not say AR15
and the maker is Ordnance Design Co. Santa Clara CA is also stamped on it.

[b.faust]

No, it is stamped Model ER15 it does not say AR15
and the maker is Ordnance Design Co. Santa Clara CA is also stamped on it.

Wow, yeah, I'm flexing my google-fu and finding this was an actual company. I can't find any good info though.

I'll be watching this thread. I'm really curious now!!

[Jim McCoin]

Wow, yeah, I'm flexing my google-fu and finding this was an actual company. I can't find any good info though.

I'll be watching this thread. I'm really curious now!!

I believe it was made by Ed Ryberg, possibly misspelled. Quite a machinest back in the day, I used to trade work with him. As far as I can remember they were cast.

Jim

[Jim McCoin]

For those of you who have been in the hobby for decades there is a picture of one in the 1983 Small Arms of the World. Yes I'v been in the hobby for for decades.

Jim

[CHS]

Would like to ask the experts here if this is an OLL.
Probably been answered before, but I sure can't find it. I have tried to research this lower using the search available here.
I cannot find any info on this lower. Flow chart appendix B does list Ordnance Inc.
Is the Inc. the same as Co. ?

The Lower I am asking about is made by Ordnance Design Co. Santa Clara CA
Model is an ER15.
It is about 25-30 years old.


Thanks in advance for your consideration.

If Ordnance Inc. *IS* the same as Ordnance Design Co., it still doesn't matter and your lower is still an OLL due to model number being ER15 and not AR15.

You're fine.

[700338LM]

Thank you for your answers

I have come to the same conclusion as bdsmchs posts.
I poured over the data and there is no ER15 anywhere on the banned lists. So it must be an oll that fell thru the cracks of the ban.

I had this rifle way back when the original assault ban was implemented.
Rather than register it, I took it to Nevada and stored it there all these years.
Now that it is oll I should be able to put a Bullet Button on it and bring it back.

Anyone see any possible problem with bringing it back?

BTW it has a 3 digit serial # So there probably were not a lot made.

Jim McCoin, I am really interested in the history of this lower.
I have also been in the hobby for decades. But I do not have that 1983 small arms of the world.
Sure would like to see that picture. Do you have any more info about your time with Ed Ryberg, or the company. (Pm me if you don't want to post it.)
If he made it you are right he is one hxxx of a machinist.
I have other newly made oll's to compare it to and this one is a gem. It still looks new since it has been stored all these years.

I have been asking in a lot of places. Will post info if an when I get anything worthwhile.

[b.faust]

I have been asking in a lot of places. Will post info if an when I get anything worthwhile.

Please do!
I'm extremely curious about this now. I looked through a lot of books here and asked around and nobody seems to know anything about it (and they're all very interested now)

Heck post a picture as well when you get it picked up!

B.

[isplice]

Purchased mine in Nov., 1980 as a stripped lower for $134. S/N is 36X. Have been looking for information about them since 2000 without much luck! It is a nice lower that still serves to this day, and it is registered with the state.

[700338LM]

isplice,
when you say it is registered with the state do you mean that it is on the list?
Or did you register it during the original AWB.

[tiger222]

That book by Ezell is a must have for the small arms enthusiast IMHO - I got mine when they were on sale at Barnes & Nobel for silly cheap almost 10 years ago?

[isplice]

Registered as an AW in 12/2000 because it takes a detachable magazine, and has the "evil" features. I tried to register it in 1990 along with my AR-180, but the DOJ said in 1991 (when they sent me my registration card for the AR-180) "Please note only those firearms defined as "assault weapons" in California Penal Code Section 12276 will be registered by the Department of Justice. Other firearms listed do not require registration as outlined in California Penal Code Section 12285.". So to them it wasn't on the list.

[Jim McCoin]

That book by Ezell is a must have for the small arms enthusiast IMHO - I got mine when they were on sale at Barnes & Nobel for silly cheap almost 10 years ago?

Hey, I have a signed copy.

Back to the lower, I had a FFL at that time and bought, sold and traded a lot of things. A neighbor of mine, a class three dealer, said Ed was making lowers, we both had Atchison conversion kits and I thought a .22 LR AR 15 "would be cool"

Ed needed some welding done so I traded my time for a prototype lower, it wasn't annodized so I had Proto metals in Belmont hard annodize it, the color match with the Colt upper was a pretty good match.

At that time there were not a lot of places to buy parts, I uasuly bought from Shotgun News or the San Jose gun show. I assembled the AR15 from mostly surplus parts and stuck in the Atchison kit.

I drove to the Los Altos range on a week day, it was almost empty, I set up on a bench on the 50 yard range. I fired a few rounds and the next trigger pull it fired four rounds with one pull of the trigger, it was fun but totally BAD, one of the range guys came up to me and said "you're having too much fun, put it away" so I did.

I went back to the shop and took the lower apart and put it away, a year or so later a friend of mine bought it, over the years Iv lost track of him and the lower.

The last I heard of Ed, he had left the country, that was in the mid '80s

That's all I know about that.

Jim

[GlockMedic]

Hi all..
I also have an
Ordnance Design Co.
Santa Clara, Calif
Model ER15

I have not been able to find information about this rifle.
The upper matches perfectly but is not stamped anywhere.

It appears to be a cast lower. The color is a dark Olive Drab.
My Ser# is also 3 digits starting with a 2XX

I will keep my ears open and post information I find..