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  • #16
    glock_holiday
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    • Sep 2008
    • 210

    Originally posted by Nick1236
    Is there a schematic for the finish machining needed?

    You can download the colt print here.

    http://www.quentindefense.com

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    • #17
      1911Operator
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      • Mar 2010
      • 2682

      so anyone know anyone that has the equiptment to finish these?
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      • #18
        Nick1236
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        • Mar 2010
        • 3843

        Originally posted by glock_holiday
        You can download the colt print here.

        http://www.cncguns.com/downloads.html
        thats what i was looking for thank you.
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        • #19
          glock_holiday
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          • Sep 2008
          • 210

          There has been a recent change in what ATF is allowing to be completed on an 80% receiver. In the past certain manufacturers received letters stating that it was OK to drill the selector hole. That is no longer the case. We received an updated opinion on what is allowed at the beginning of April. You can download a copy of the letter we received here,

          ATF 80% Letter
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          • #20
            SoCalRandy
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            • Apr 2009
            • 570

            Tagged for future reference!

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            • #21
              CSACANNONEER
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              Haven't you guys heard of "build parties"? If this was illegal we wouldn't be advertising them here. Yea, most of the larger BPs are for AKs but, I've heard of many other types of firearms being home built. ARs (rifles and pistols), AKs(rifles and pistols), MACs, VZ58s, 1919s, M2s, Stens, Sterlings, MG42s, etc.
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              • #22
                Mechified
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                • Feb 2010
                • 20

                serial

                Assuming u are the one fabricating the receiver, or completing it... In my opinion, u would engrave or stamp a makers mark, and a serial #. That way u can easily register it. If u dont.... Even if u dont sell, L.E. wont like an un marked weapon.

                Originally posted by powderedtoastman
                I stand corrected. Didn't know you could get them marked. Who would have to do the marking?

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                • #23
                  Noobert
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                  • Jan 2009
                  • 3340

                  Originally posted by bdsmchs
                  Anyone could do the marking. You could do it yourself pretty easily with a set of punches if you're careful.
                  If anyone does try to do with punches, make sure the letter is centered on the punch. While back someone did one perfectly lined up but the HF punches caused the serial to come out misaligned
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                  • #24
                    Mechified
                    Junior Member
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 20

                    No Punches

                    Thats crazy funny.


                    Originally posted by Noobert
                    If anyone does try to do with punches, make sure the letter is centered on the punch. While back someone did one perfectly lined up but the HF punches caused the serial to come out misaligned

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                    • #25
                      Mechified
                      Junior Member
                      • Feb 2010
                      • 20

                      crazy funny

                      Noobert..... U rock.

                      Originally posted by Mechified
                      Thats crazy funny.

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                      • #26
                        Mechified
                        Junior Member
                        • Feb 2010
                        • 20

                        All good sites

                        Real cool sites... Been to cnc guns.com...... awesome models... Free.. Please support this dude is doing this for free.. I would never recomend any of this, of course.......



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                        Originally posted by GTXR390
                        anyone know if there's a jig which'll mill out the magwell? (have all coverage for all milling/drilling needed?)

                        i was checking out this:



                        and



                        and i finally figured out what a 0% lower is...ahaha.

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                        • #27
                          ke6guj
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                          • Nov 2003
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                          Originally posted by Mechified
                          Assuming u are the one fabricating the receiver, or completing it... In my opinion, u would engrave or stamp a makers mark, and a serial #.
                          you can if you want, not required.
                          That way u can easily register it.
                          you can if you want, not required.

                          If u dont.... Even if u dont sell, L.E. wont like an un marked weapon.
                          doesn't matter if they LIKE it, an unmarked firearm that has never been marked is not illegal to possess. That is different than removing the serial number from a firearm that was already marked.
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                          • #28
                            Mechified
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                            • Feb 2010
                            • 20

                            Thanks

                            Originally posted by ke6guj
                            you can if you want, not required.
                            you can if you want, not required.

                            doesn't matter if they LIKE it, an unmarked firearm that has never been marked is not illegal to possess. That is different than removing the serial number from a firearm that was already marked.
                            Thanks for the clarification... again it was just my opinion.

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                            • #29
                              Artery
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                              • Oct 2008
                              • 280

                              not to get too off topic, but these can be made into pistols as well, correct? at which point you could drop mags and use prebans as long as there isnt a stock attached?
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                              • #30
                                CHS
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                                • Jan 2008
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                                Originally posted by Artery
                                not to get too off topic, but these can be made into pistols as well, correct? at which point you could drop mags and use prebans as long as there isnt a stock attached?
                                If it's an 80% 1911 frame, or M11/9 frame or something, sure.

                                But not an 80% AR receiver.

                                If you build an 80% AR receiver into an AR pistol, it utilizes the magazine outside of the pistol grip, which is an AW feature for pistols. The upper will most likely have a threaded barrel as well, also an AW feature.

                                You would be stuck to using a bullet button and 10rd mags.

                                Or, you could disable the gas system, and build in essence a bolt-action repeater. A bullet button would not be required at that point, and you COULD use hicaps, but you would no longer have a semi-auto pistol.
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