Mapul Angled Fore Grip = No bullet button????

[Gofasterdammit]

I'd consider it as a type of handstop. I can't find my thumb through mine but it's not on a feature-less build. If I did put one on a feature-less build I would cut out a piece of plastic and epoxy it in the opening.

[benbangui]

and just because it "can be griped" like a pistol, doesnt deem it a pistol grip. this could just be me being unreasonable but its the same principle as the slings or bipods. i have used my bipod on my 30-06 as a "pistol grip" when i took a standing shot at a ram. does that make the bipod illegal if i did the same on my M1A? the answer is NO. so i hope they dont deem this as a "evil feature"... that would suck

[benbangui]

ok sorry im out of the cali loop slang... but whatrs a featureless build?
im assuming its something your not gonna use? haha i dont know, i just want to have fun with my M1A build!!!!

[benbangui]

thanks! now im up to date

[Fate]

and just because it "can be griped" like a pistol, doesnt deem it a pistol grip. this could just be me being unreasonable but its the same principle as the slings or bipods. i have used my bipod on my 30-06 as a "pistol grip" when i took a standing shot at a ram. does that make the bipod illegal if i did the same on my M1A? the answer is NO. so i hope they dont deem this as a "evil feature"... that would suck

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showpost.php?p=3777402&postcount=49

[Fate]

Well since magpul never labeled it a "pistol grip" rather, a Fore Grip, and there is not a chance I can truly grasp it like a pistol grip, then I'd still say its a go for featureless. 12276.1 specifically says "Forward PISTOL grip" not anything else. Pistol grip would entail a Pistol style grasp right?

I'd consider it as a type of handstop. I can't find my thumb through mine but it's not on a feature-less build. If I did put one on a feature-less build I would cut out a piece of plastic and epoxy it in the opening.

It's not the opening that's the issue. Technique posted this pic of an alternate way of holding the AFG that could be deemed a pistol style grasp and thus run into problems on a featureless build.

[Fate]

see what i mean, the reason this thing is legal:


should be the same reason the AFG is legal

You mistakenly believe that pistol grips and forward pistol grips are regulated the same way. They're not. They're even defined very differently. There is no "web of the hand below the action" caveat for a FPG.

What "should be legal for the same reasons" really isn't. Logic has no hold on CA law.

http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/regs/fsor.pdf

From Page 3
978.20 (c) - Forward Pistol Grip
The revised definition: “forward pistol grip means a grip that allows for a pistol style grasp
forward of the trigger”

Note it doesn't say ...a pistol grip that allows... It says grip. Any grip, but only a grip.

[pacrimguru]

the freakin' thing is named "Angled Fore Grip"... it's not that hard to comprehend. i wouldn't want to play with DOJ about semantics. if having an AFG on your featureless is that important to you then be my guest. i for one don't think its worth being the test case.

[benbangui]

looks like ill have to keep to my original idea of having a bipod more centered on the handguard. oh well. thanks for the help everyone!

[benbangui]

[/QUOTE]

ron burgundy voice:

"im gonna be honest... that might be practical... but thats gonna look absoLUutely ridiculous... "

[Cokebottle]

the freakin' thing is named "Angled Fore Grip"... it's not that hard to comprehend. i wouldn't want to play with DOJ about semantics. if having an AFG on your featureless is that important to you then be my guest. i for one don't think its worth being the test case.

That's my feeling as well.

Until this thing has been dragged through court on a featureless, I have no desire to tempt fate.

And with that said, keep in mind the words of "the right people"...

"It is of utmost importance that there continue to be zero successful prosecutions involving legally configured OLL guns"

A "test case" handled improperly could very well have ramifications for all featureless builds, and because of the "color" introduced by the AFG, I suspect that CGF would not defend the case.