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  • X-NewYawker
    In Memoriam
    • May 2008
    • 5993

    Best Course

    Any of you guys (and gals) pay for a legit rifle instruction course? If yes, which one, and how was the experience -- would you recommend it to a NOOB? To an experienced shooter? Thanks in advance.
  • #2
    Window_Seat
    Veteran Member
    • Apr 2008
    • 3533

    I haven't even been there, but I'm already telling people to go to Front Sight.

    Piazza is said to be a bit on the radical side, but everyone who has been here talking about FS has nothing but good things to say about the training facility and the way the instruction is carried out, that's just what I've heard, and I will be going there for my first Rifle course.

    Most here will recommend the 4 day Rifle course, or you could go for the 2 day course.

    There are newby course certificates that members sell here for a lot less than the face cost.

    Erik.

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    • #3
      Mute
      Calguns Addict
      • Oct 2005
      • 8581

      Semi-auto battle type rifle or precision rifle? For the first, ITTS or Thunder Ranch. For the latter, Rifles Only or Storm Mountain.
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      • #4
        X-NewYawker
        In Memoriam
        • May 2008
        • 5993

        Originally posted by Mute
        Semi-auto battle type rifle or precision rifle? For the first, ITTS or Thunder Ranch. For the latter, Rifles Only or Storm Mountain.
        AR rifle for Home defense
        Bolt for long range

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        • #5
          C_1
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2008
          • 1504

          Maybe you can find whatever is local or is closest to you and find out if there are any programs or classes offered there. Recently I was referred to Appleseed. I havent taken the course but I'm going to do it when it comes to my local range. $70 for 2 days. Not too bad.

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          • #6
            Mute
            Calguns Addict
            • Oct 2005
            • 8581

            Originally posted by X-NewYawker
            AR rifle for Home defense
            Bolt for long range
            For AR home defense, I personally like Clint Smith's urban rifle class. On the long range bolt, both of the ones I suggested are good. For Storm Mountain though, you better be in good shape. They'll work you hard.
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            • #7
              The Director
              Veteran Member
              • Sep 2008
              • 2769

              Blackwater's US training center in San Diego seems freakin' amazing. Never been, but talked to Bill Go, a retired USMC colonel who runs the joint. He seems super top notch. Some people on Calguns have been there and loved it.

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              • #8
                Federalist
                Senior Member
                • May 2009
                • 553

                Originally posted by The Director
                Blackwater's US training center in San Diego seems freakin' amazing. Never been, but talked to Bill Go, a retired USMC colonel who runs the joint. He seems super top notch. Some people on Calguns have been there and loved it.
                +1

                Bill Go at USTC teaches no nonsense courses and provides lots of personal attention to each student. I highly recommend his tactical carbine courses. In addition, he teaches a great tactical pistol course. I know that he works with students to design custom courses to fit their specific needs. Bill regularly trains LEO, SEALs, etc.
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                • #9
                  drummerdude1188
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2008
                  • 792

                  Any one from Grey Group Training should be gtg. Look for VAdinger's posts in the training section on upcoming classes. I have taken a class with Larry Vickers before and it was top notch. Larry is now associated with Grey Group so you can pm VAdinger to see when he will be back down here again.

                  To be more clear to the op about the experience it was a really good class for someone who's done a lot of shooting but not had formal training. Skill levels were from moderate (me) to people who had taken several VERY advanced classes from Larry and everything in between. There was a guy making hits on a 12x12 steel at 200yrds with a 7.62 krink!! I would not recommend it to a noob though, not having any formal training is one thing, second time ever touching a gun is another. So I say take a vickers class. Well worth the money.
                  Last edited by drummerdude1188; 03-19-2010, 7:07 PM.

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                  • #10
                    ar15barrels
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Jan 2006
                    • 57174

                    Originally posted by X-NewYawker
                    Any of you guys (and gals) pay for a legit rifle instruction course?
                    Are you finally thinking about learning to shoot?
                    We can teach you some long range techniques at the CaPRC shoot coming up this weekend...

                    Randall Rausch

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                    • #11
                      aplinker
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Feb 2007
                      • 16762

                      Originally posted by ar15barrels
                      Are you finally thinking about learning to shoot?
                      We can teach you some long range techniques at the CaPRC shoot coming up this weekend...

                      http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=278154
                      HA! You know he just writes about shooting. This is just research for his next article.

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                      • #12
                        randy
                        In Memoriam
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 4642

                        If you want to learn to shoot a black rifle then www.taranbutler.com is the best in the area. After he teaches you to get the most out of your gun then take some tactical classes.
                        I move slow but I make up for it by shooting poorly.

                        When I hit the lotto I'm only shooting factory.

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                        • #13
                          X-NewYawker
                          In Memoriam
                          • May 2008
                          • 5993

                          Thanks for the input.

                          This Taran Butler:



                          he's a neighbor. I am shooting there with him once a week.
                          Wanted to know what people thought of the "big guns" schools like GUnsite and Thunder Ranch, if they had sprung for a gun vacation/training week.

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