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  • #16
    DREADNOUGHT78
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
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    • Jan 2009
    • 4147

    Originally posted by Mute
    Logistics is going to be problematic. Unless you have a pistol lower, you're not going to be able to get that barrel into the state without the KX3 already permanently attached, in which case, installing it could be difficult or impossible depending on how you want to set it up.
    Not true you do not need any proof you own a pistol lower to get a barrel shorter than 16 inches. I have bought 14,10.5,7.5 inch barrels without permanently attached flashiders.

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    • #17
      bwiese
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Oct 2005
      • 27621

      Originally posted by DREADNOUGHT78
      Not true you do not need any proof you own a pistol lower to get a barrel shorter than 16 inches. I have bought 14,10.5,7.5 inch barrels without permanently attached flashiders.
      If you ordered+acquired a short barrel [not lengthened to 16"], did not own a pistol lower, and yet owned matching rifles/rifle lowers, you shouldn't have.

      Ever hear of constructive possession of an SBR?

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      • #18
        DULLYJAY
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2005
        • 1022

        Originally posted by Mute
        Logistics is going to be problematic. Unless you have a pistol lower, you're not going to be able to get that barrel into the state without the KX3 already permanently attached, in which case, installing it could be difficult or impossible depending on how you want to set it up.
        LOL. You can get any barrel / upper ship here. I know because I did it.
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        • #19
          Kelvrick
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          • Jun 2007
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          • #20
            IDPA4U
            Member
            • Jan 2008
            • 334

            Spikes Tactical does custom barrel lengths and will do a perm attach of the KX3 before they ship it.
            Never Mistake Motion For Action"

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            • #21
              Mute
              Calguns Addict
              • Oct 2005
              • 8451

              Please read what bwiese wrote again. If you have any AR lower in possession that is not specifically a pistol lower and you order a barrel shorter than 16", both the feds and CA can go after you for constructive possession of an SBR. Just because it can be shipped to you doesn't mean it's legal. It is up to you to determine whether what you're ordering is legal to possess.

              If you have NO AR lowers, or you have one that's already being used as a pistol than your ok, otherwise, they can go after you for possessing an SBR.
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              • #22
                CHS
                Moderator Emeritus
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                • Jan 2008
                • 11338

                Originally posted by Mute
                Please read what bwiese wrote again. If you have any AR lower in possession that is not specifically a pistol lower and you order a barrel shorter than 16", both the feds and CA can go after you for constructive possession of an SBR. Just because it can be shipped to you doesn't mean it's legal. It is up to you to determine whether what you're ordering is legal to possess.
                Actually, only the state can go after you. In the eyes of the feds, a virgin receiver can be made into any legal firearm, including a pistol, so there is no constructive possession at the federal level if you have a stripped lower and a short barrel. Only at the state level.
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                --Cesare, Marquis of Beccaria, "On Crimes and Punishment"

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                • #23
                  Centurion_D
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2005
                  • 1983

                  Originally posted by xounlistedxox
                  Yeah I've seen the package deals etc. I've never owned anything but a cmmg lower, but I would suspect their quality is lower than BCM/LMT, so I would rather not.
                  I don't own any CMMG stuff but from what I've been told by those who do the quality is top notch.

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                  • #24
                    CHS
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                    • Jan 2008
                    • 11338

                    Originally posted by Centurion_D
                    I don't own any CMMG stuff but from what I've been told by those who do the quality is top notch.
                    CMMG used to be good stuff, but they've really tapered off and haven't bounced back with quality.

                    It's hard to recommend them anymore.
                    Please read the Calguns Wiki
                    Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes...Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.
                    --Cesare, Marquis of Beccaria, "On Crimes and Punishment"

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                    • #25
                      Centurion_D
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2005
                      • 1983

                      Originally posted by bdsmchs
                      CMMG used to be good stuff, but they've really tapered off and haven't bounced back with quality.

                      It's hard to recommend them anymore.
                      Really? I was considering getting a CMMG upper. What quality issues have come up?

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                      • #26
                        CHS
                        Moderator Emeritus
                        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                        • Jan 2008
                        • 11338

                        Originally posted by Centurion_D
                        Really? I was considering getting a CMMG upper. What quality issues have come up?
                        They have been hit by some very serious QC/QA issues. I've had to return so many barrels to them in the last few months because of stupid little minor issues, but issues that should never have made it past half-decent QA. I've seen a few barrels come that are short-chambered, and even one that had a huge gouge cut into the neck area of the chamber.

                        On top of that, they still haven't managed to handle the growth in business they've had since the election, so their customer service is just abysmal.
                        Please read the Calguns Wiki
                        Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes...Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.
                        --Cesare, Marquis of Beccaria, "On Crimes and Punishment"

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                        • #27
                          Centurion_D
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2005
                          • 1983

                          Originally posted by bdsmchs
                          They have been hit by some very serious QC/QA issues. I've had to return so many barrels to them in the last few months because of stupid little minor issues, but issues that should never have made it past half-decent QA. I've seen a few barrels come that are short-chambered, and even one that had a huge gouge cut into the neck area of the chamber.

                          On top of that, they still haven't managed to handle the growth in business they've had since the election, so their customer service is just abysmal.
                          Thanks for the intel. I guess I'll be looking elsewhere for my upper.

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                          • #28
                            Mute
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Oct 2005
                            • 8451

                            Originally posted by bdsmchs
                            Actually, only the state can go after you. In the eyes of the feds, a virgin receiver can be made into any legal firearm, including a pistol, so there is no constructive possession at the federal level if you have a stripped lower and a short barrel. Only at the state level.
                            Let's be real careful with that. That is true if you ONLY have the bare receiver and not enough parts to complete a functioning rifle. Since most of the posters here likely have completely functioning rifle or completed lowers, it's not a good idea to keep posting here about purchases that could be construed (whether true or not) by the wrong people as a technical violation of the law. I'd hate to see any of our fellow Calgunners get into trouble with the law because they misunderstood how these laws apply to their situation.
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