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  • M. Sage
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    • Jul 2006
    • 19759

    Reccomend me a scope

    I just got my K31 no-bubba scope mount from HKRob (thanks again!) and now I need a scope to go into it.

    I don't want to spend a ton of money, in fact I can't spend a ton of money, but want something ok. This is a pretty accurate rifle. I was thinking of a variable-power, this one in particular.



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    6172crew
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    • Oct 2005
    • 6240

    1 vote "No" on the BSA.

    The busnell elite series is cheap and nice, for under $200 you can get something you keep.

    $200 wont take a guy long to save if hes motivated.
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    • #3
      five.five-six
      CGN Contributor
      • May 2006
      • 34842

      Originally posted by 6172crew
      1 vote "No" on the BSA.

      The busnell elite series is cheap and nice, for under $200 you can get something you keep.

      $200 wont take a guy long to save if hes motivated.
      +100 do not buy a cheep scope, I have a busnell elite on my .300WM it is quite servicable..


      I put a cheepo on a $2k AR10 and wanted to throw the whole thing in the trash.....till mr. lupold fixed it... now ai love it
      Last edited by five.five-six; 03-08-2007, 8:17 PM.

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      • #4
        M. Sage
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        • Jul 2006
        • 19759

        Ok, so two votes for a scope that cost $50 more than the rifle. I do want something nice, though. Suppose I'll have to hit the $200 range, since this rifle shoots like something worth a lot more than a buck fifty.

        Thanks, guys. Keep 'em coming!
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        • #5
          bwiese
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Oct 2005
          • 27621

          A Burris 3-9x40 can sometimes be had for $170.

          Good clear glass, stable internal mechanics. IMHO better than Leupold Rifleman and VXI/VXII scopes.

          Bill Wiese
          San Jose, CA

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          • #6
            randy
            In Memoriam
            • Nov 2006
            • 4642

            simmmons pro diamond from www.cdnninvestments.com can be had for delivered for under $70.00 lots of 3 gun shooters use them.

            good luck
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            • #7
              E Pluribus Unum
              Calguns Addict
              • Dec 2006
              • 8097

              Originally posted by M. Sage
              Reccomend me a scope
              I prefer peppermint... all the new flavors are just yucky... what I hate is when I cough and it comes out my nose...
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              • #8
                M. Sage
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                • Jul 2006
                • 19759

                Originally posted by E Pluribus Unum
                I prefer peppermint... all the new flavors are just yucky... what I hate is when I cough and it comes out my nose...
                Scope with a lower case s, not a capital S!

                Is the Simmons really as good as the others? After some time to think about it, I'm not really happy with the cheapo scope I got for my .22, so I could be looking at saving up for a higher-end setup.
                Originally posted by Deadbolt
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                • #9
                  dfletcher
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Dec 2006
                  • 14787

                  Most of the "no Bubba" mounts I've seen are the forward mount type using the sight base & EER scop - I presume your's is different & a conventional scope is OK.

                  Check out the Nikon ProStaffs, they're about $125.00. Even Leupold sells their Rifleman line for about $175.00. Both are 2 to 7X which should be fine.

                  Just a thought, I tend to put older steel Weavers on the 50+ year old rifles I own. I know the optics aren't best, but to me an old rifle with a brand new scope looks a bit off. I know this is favoring style over function, but it's just my preference.
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                  • #10
                    6172crew
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                    • Oct 2005
                    • 6240

                    I think the Bushnell 3200 elite tactical is under the $200 mark, the glass is cleaner and a bit brighter than the super sniper scope line but has mildots so if you ever wanted to get into playing with that you would have already bought one, plus you could move it over to a AR15 Varmint or other platform that a fixed 10 power would work.

                    I also hear the Burris Blackdiamond line is great as well and the lower priced VX models Leupold offers. Did I hear that Nikon supplies the glass for the Leupolds?

                    By the time you get dont with your resaerch you will have saved teh extra $$ to buy the $200 model.
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                    • #11
                      lazuris
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2006
                      • 588

                      the standard rule of thumb is: price of gun = price of scope.

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                      • #12
                        shark92651
                        Vendor/Retailer
                        • Oct 2006
                        • 5431

                        Originally posted by lazuris
                        the standard rule of thumb is: price of gun = price of scope.
                        I would go out on a limb and say most people do not follow that rule. Is this really true? I have about $1500 in my rifle - what would I gain by spending an additional grand on a scope? I admit I do not have any experience with expensive scopes so maybe I can't appreciate the difference.
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                        • #13
                          guimus
                          Senior Member
                          • Jun 2006
                          • 862

                          Originally posted by shark92651
                          I would go out on a limb and say most people do not follow that rule. Is this really true? I have about $1500 in my rifle - what would I gain by spending an additional grand on a scope? I admit I do not have any experience with expensive scopes so maybe I can't appreciate the difference.
                          agreed. From my experience, quality and price are pretty closely related until about the 200 dollar mark. Once you hit that, you have several decent-quality, reputable scope lines. The quality rises much more slowly above the $300 mark, but you can certainly get some good features.

                          i.e.: A $200 Burris Fullfield II is definitely 4 times as good (if 'good' could be quantified) as most 50 dollar scopes. It's a little hard to believe that any $3700 Zeiss is 18.5 times as 'good' as the Burris.

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                          • #14
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                            Veteran Member
                            • Oct 2005
                            • 4661

                            Originally posted by bwiese
                            A Burris 3-9x40 can sometimes be had for $170.

                            Good clear glass, stable internal mechanics. IMHO better than Leupold Rifleman and VXI/VXII scopes.
                            I'd agree that the Burris Fullfield II 3-9x40 is the best value in an under $200 scope, and their Ballistic Plex reticle is a useful one.

                            You can get it at swfa (a great company to do business with) for $185, including a spotting scope, which you could then sell to offset the price or use at the range.


                            And the rest of their line:


                            The scope will hold its resale value well, too, for when you decide to move up. You really can't do better for the combination of price and quality.
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                            • #15
                              M. Sage
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                              • Jul 2006
                              • 19759

                              Originally posted by dfletcher
                              Most of the "no Bubba" mounts I've seen are the forward mount type using the sight base & EER scop - I presume your's is different & a conventional scope is OK.
                              To answer that, the mount clamps to the right side of the reciever. As soon as I saw this, I had to have one: http://theboxotruth.com/docs/edu37.htm

                              That's the mount.

                              Anyway, this is really great info, guys.

                              Price of rifle = price of scope? Uhh. This is a $150 rifle, and I'm thinking about spending more on the scope. The good thing is, it shoots a lot better than a $150 rifle should. My first group with open sights at 50 yards had 4/5 holes touching.

                              I think I'll take a really close look at the Burris scope. Sounds like a winner.

                              I'll keep the spotting scope.
                              Originally posted by Deadbolt
                              "We're here to take your land for your safety"

                              "My Safety?" *click* "There, that was my safety"
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