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  • ilikeguns
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 782

    Terminator 2 gun

    Hey guys. Kinda off the wall question but what lever action is Arnie using in Terminator 2? it looked big to be a 30-30, was it a 45-70 or a shotgun of some sort? Looks like they chopped the stock short too.
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    Jason762
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2006
    • 1704



    Winchester 1887

    Upon arriving in the present (believed to be 1995 in the film), the Terminator Model T-800 (Arnold Schwarzenegger) enters a biker bar and takes the clothes and firearm off a biker. As he prepares to leave on the biker's Harley Fatboy, the T-800 is confronted by the bar owner, who fires a warning shot from his sawed-off Winchester 1887. The Terminator coolly walks over and snatches the gun from his hand.
    Three versions of the gun were used during filming. The first was the iconic "Rosebox Shotgun" with a sawed off barrel and stock and the trigger guard cut out. This is the gun seen through most of the film. The second version had a large lever loop so the gun could be flip cocked one-handed while riding a motorcycle (similar to the actions seen in True Grit and The Rifleman). James Cameron says in the commentary how Arnold accidentally picked up the wrong shotgun and tried to flip cock it and nearly broke three fingers. The third gun was the rubber prop gun for stunt work. The Terminator keeps the gun as his main weapon for a good portion of the film until he comes upon Sarah Connor's (Linda Hamilton) armory, where more superior weapons are at his disposal.
    Since Winchester had stopped producing the Winchester 1887 shotgun before the film, the armorers had to find pristine condition guns which were no longer in production! The guns in the film are indeed genuine Winchester shotguns and not a foreign copy such as the Norinco YL1887L (which wasn't released until 2002) or any of the Aldo Uberti copies (they weren't producing an 1887 shotgun at the time). The report of the shotgun is said to be two cannons firing at once.

    The sawed-off Winchester 1887 with large-lever loop used by Arnold Schwarzenegger as The Terminator - 10 Gauge. Note the metal plate on the lever for better handling during flip-cocking.



    The other sawed-off Winchester 1887 used by Arnold Schwarzenegger in the movie. This is the one on the right in the picture below.



    The three prop Winchester 1887 shotguns used in the film. The one on the left is the "Rosebox Shotgun", the one in the center is the rubber stunt prop, and the one to the right is the large lever loop shotgun for one-handed flip cocking - 10 Gauge.
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      Lagduf
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2009
      • 675

      Phase Plasma Rifle in the 40Watt Range

      IMFDB is indeed a great site. I use it a lot after I watch action movies, heh.
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      It is so nice to drop mags freely even though I do that now with my featureless AR and AK it is not the same as the real thing. Like Coca Cola here in the US compared to Mexico with real sugar not corn syrup!

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      • #5
        Baconator
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        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
        • Jan 2009
        • 9547

        Were you just watching that on AMC movies?

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          Kerplow
          Calguns Addict
          • Dec 2009
          • 8875

          Originally posted by Jason762
          Upon arriving in the present (believed to be 1995 in the film), the Terminator Model T-800 .

          FUD ALERT! FUD ALERT!!!

          arnolds character was a t-101!!!
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            sjpd
            Member
            • Sep 2006
            • 289

            Norinco makes an 1887 Winchester 12ga clone. Also, theres ADI Lithgow's Model 1887 12ga...if you can find one.

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              reidnez
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2009
              • 1852

              A 10-gauge shotgun with no shoulder thing that goes up...

              No. Effing. Thanks.
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              • #9
                pontiacpratt
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2009
                • 1663

                that's the same gun the "runners" on COD MW2 use akimbo, Turn the corner and "BOOM" hate that.
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                  WW2Buff
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2007
                  • 1327

                  Originally posted by pontiacpratt
                  that's the same gun the "runners" on COD MW2 use akimbo, Turn the corner and "BOOM" hate that.
                  Haha, so true. Hate that as well.

                  Does anybody know why some have the trigger guard cut? Faster to get to?

                  -Ben

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                  • #11
                    Hayashi Killian
                    Senior Member
                    • Jun 2009
                    • 617

                    Probably so you can easily snag the trigger for "jerk" shots. Trigger guards are there to prevent accidental discharge.
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                      sd1023x
                      Senior Member
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 1016

                      Originally posted by pontiacpratt
                      that's the same gun the "runners" on COD MW2 use akimbo, Turn the corner and "BOOM" hate that.
                      HAHAHA...I am the bane of your existence on MW2!!! So who dictates what is the 'correct' way to play? There I have been plenty of times I've been 'outdistanced' turning the corner on MW2 with shotties akimbo!
                      Originally posted by Shotgun Man
                      Sorry, but I can't help but get a homo-erotic vibe from this thread.

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                      • #13
                        ironhiide
                        Member
                        • May 2009
                        • 396

                        Originally posted by reidnez
                        A 10-gauge shotgun with no shoulder thing that goes up...

                        No. Effing. Thanks.
                        But just perfect for an outlaw biker or robot, lol.
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                        • #14
                          minuteman
                          Member
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 402

                          Probably so he can flip cock it without getting his fingers caught.
                          Originally posted by WW2Buff
                          Haha, so true. Hate that as well.

                          Does anybody know why some have the trigger guard cut? Faster to get to?

                          -Ben

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                            pontiacpratt
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2009
                            • 1663

                            Originally posted by sd1023x
                            HAHAHA...I am the bane of your existence on MW2!!! So who dictates what is the 'correct' way to play? There I have been plenty of times I've been 'outdistanced' turning the corner on MW2 with shotties akimbo!
                            Never said it was a wrong way to play.... I just said I hate it. Kill or be killed. I hate the Dentist but still go.
                            Last edited by pontiacpratt; 02-19-2010, 3:28 PM.
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