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  • #46
    Cokebottle
    Seņor Member
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Oct 2009
    • 32373

    Originally posted by Maplewood
    This is the breakdown the FFL sent me

    DROS fee - $25
    Processing fee - $50
    Plus 9.75% sales tax on the purchase price of the item plus processing fee. For example, if the lower costs you $55 the sales tax would be computed on $105 (purchase price plus processing fee) or in this example $10.24. Adding all the costs up your total transaction cost (cash or check - credit card is an additional 3%): $25 + $50 + $10.24 = $85.24. I will be selling these same lowers, once I receive them, for $150 OTD (includes all taxes, DROS fees & shipping costs). Hope this helps!
    Find another FFL.

    Sales tax is not to be charged on any fees for labor or services. ONLY the $55 purchase price is taxable... and $50 for the FFL fee for a stripped lower is too high. OC Armory is $35, and Bright Spot Pawn was $25 last year for ANY gun, I think they went to $35 this year.
    Charging an additional 3% for credit card is also BS, but it's his business and he can run it any way he wants, though I'm pretty sure that he cannot charge that 3% on top of the state DROS fee.

    Keep in mind that those Sharps lowers are blems, and are not a currently active product. Sharps made them and apparently decided to get out of the business of making AR lowers.
    That fact is not a problem, as there's no moving parts, and as long as they are machined correctly they will cause you no problems, but I don't know how "blem'd" these parts are.
    Honestly... if the FFL is charging $150 for these things OTD, I would seriously look into getting a Spikes or a JDm locally.

    What is your location?
    Last edited by Cokebottle; 01-07-2010, 4:35 PM.
    - Rich

    Originally posted by dantodd
    A just government will not be overthrown by force or violence because the people have no incentive to overthrow a just government. If a small minority of people attempt such an insurrection to grab power and enslave the people, the RKBA of the whole is our insurance against their success.

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    • #47
      Maplewood
      Member
      • Feb 2009
      • 267

      I hate to hear that I might be getting ripped, I'm in Torrance Are you 100% on how the sales tax works?
      Clinger of Gun & Bible

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      • #48
        Maplewood
        Member
        • Feb 2009
        • 267

        Problaby worth the 2 trips down to Costa Mesa for the JD lower, only $4 more and hopefully not a blemish?
        Clinger of Gun & Bible

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        • #49
          Cokebottle
          Seņor Member
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Oct 2009
          • 32373

          Originally posted by Maplewood
          Problaby worth the 2 trips down to Costa Mesa for the JD lower, only $4 more and hopefully not a blemish?
          Absolutely worth going with Riflegear.

          On the tax issue, according to a couple of people in another thread (including an FFL), tax is allowable on the FFL transfer fee... but either way, it's only $5 out of the total.
          I just hate the idea of having to pay $150 OTD for a $55 lower when the same price can get you a current-production (and quality) lower from a California manufacturer and gun shop that support CalGuns

          Riflegear is on Harbor literally close enough to the 405 for me to throw a golf ball to (don't ask me to hit one that far, but I can throw it ). They're open until 6, and open Saturday unless they are working a gun show.

          You could also go a little cheaper on the Sharps lower by transferring it through OC Armory... his fee is only $35 for a stripped lower, so that would save you $15, and he's in OC so the sales tax is only 8.75%, which will be a total of only $8.75 in tax, saving you another $1.49 on top of the $15, but he is down in Laguna Hills off of the 405 @ Lake Forest, so the gas for the two trips would likely come close to the $16 savings.
          - Rich

          Originally posted by dantodd
          A just government will not be overthrown by force or violence because the people have no incentive to overthrow a just government. If a small minority of people attempt such an insurrection to grab power and enslave the people, the RKBA of the whole is our insurance against their success.

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          • #50
            Maplewood
            Member
            • Feb 2009
            • 267

            Well thanks all for the info, I'm heading off for the weekend up to the mountains. I will post more about my build once I have the lower in hand, getting kind of excited to finally get started on this.

            Will have more questions about the various Del-Ton upgrades, sounds like chrome lined barrel is a must, but need to learn about flash suppressors, whats legal to get on the rifle.
            Clinger of Gun & Bible

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            • #51
              Cokebottle
              Seņor Member
              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
              • Oct 2009
              • 32373

              Originally posted by Maplewood
              but need to learn about flash suppressors, whats legal to get on the rifle.
              Since you're not going featureless (you're using a pistol grip), you will need a "bullet button" mag release, and the flash suppressor is legal in that configuration.

              If you want to stick with a conventional mag release, and you're running the A2 buttstock, then you can put a Kydex wrap on the grip to prevent a normal pistol-style grip.
              You are also prevented from running any other "evil features", one of which is the flash suppressor, however, a compensator is still legal.

              The advantage in running featureless is the free mag release, and if you still own any high-capacity mags from prior to 2000, you can use them in the featureless build.
              - Rich

              Originally posted by dantodd
              A just government will not be overthrown by force or violence because the people have no incentive to overthrow a just government. If a small minority of people attempt such an insurrection to grab power and enslave the people, the RKBA of the whole is our insurance against their success.

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              • #52
                osis32
                Calguns Addict
                • Jul 2009
                • 5912

                Id really recommend a stag kit from legal transfers over a del ton kit. just throwing that out there.
                Just a libertarian guy in a Leftist Authoritarian state.

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