Dry-Fire TAC2 Discreet AR15 Kit Video.

[AlexDD]

I noticed there was a loaded mag in the separated lower receiver. I am assuming that would be considered loaded for carrying purposes even though separated from the barrel/upper assembly.

In other words, you could not carry that in a lock case like that or could you?

[AlexDD]

PS I like it!

[Lone_Gunman]

Very cool. Add a solar tactical grip fin and either pin the stock or use a shorty fixed stock and you could use your pre-bans and drop them free.

[chsk9]

It looked to be 19 seconds from hands on till he squeezed one off.
Why is this any better then having a upper off the receiver?

[till44]

Cool idea, but I agree with chsk9. Why not just seperate the upper and lower? Would probably be quicker to assemble. But this is cool, looks very James Bond.

[tenpercentfirearms]

I noticed there was a loaded mag in the separated lower receiver. I am assuming that would be considered loaded for carrying purposes even though separated from the barrel/upper assembly.

In other words, you could not carry that in a lock case like that or could you?

Yes, definitely would want to have the magazines separate. Or would you? Good question. Is it loaded if the gun is not put together? That actually is a great question.

Cool idea, but I agree with chsk9. Why not just seperate the upper and lower? Would probably be quicker to assemble. But this is cool, looks very James Bond.

Size matters. I thought the same thing, but it would be a bigger case by the length of an upper receiver to just separate the two. Heck I could use my guitar case I got from JK Supply Co if I didn't want to take it apart at all.

It is just ubercool.

[tenpercentfirearms]

I am just finally getting around to posting up some detailed pictures of how this thing works.


Here you can see the fore end lock ring as it sits on the barrel. They do sell these extra too just in case you want to quick swap barrels.


This is the quick change barrel nut.


Here is what the system looks like when you put the barrel into the upper receiver.


The free float rail. Note the machining inside that provides the ledge to secure the fore end lock ring into the quick change barrel nut.


And the final product. This is how I carry mine. I did put a Bullet Button Wonder Wrench in the case too for my trip to Vegas this week.

I will do some tests in the near future to see how it holds zero. I am wondering if I shouldn't put a nice scope on it just for the tests so the test can be a little more precise? Nah, lets stick to the way I am going to shoot it rather than a hypothetical. I will get it shooting right on at 100 yards using the Trijicon and then I will shoot a 10 or 20 round group and then take it apart and put it back and repeat.

[Agro]

I noticed there was a loaded mag in the separated lower receiver. I am assuming that would be considered loaded for carrying purposes even though separated from the barrel/upper assembly.

In other words, you could not carry that in a lock case like that or could you?

+1
I would assume so as well. The receiver is the firearm and there is a loaded magazine in the firearm. In the recent photos on page #3, I see the mag is stored outside of the receiver in the case. This is good. It will take you 1-1.5 seconds to first slide that mag in, then take the upper/lower receiver out and start your assembly.

[aplinker]

He's at the range with a loaded gun. It doesn't matter...

Clever way of modifying/using a screw-on free float tube.

[Squidward]

Cool; it reminds me a little of the AR7

[Gundam]

very cool

[tenpercentfirearms]

+1
I would assume so as well. The receiver is the firearm and there is a loaded magazine in the firearm. In the recent photos on page #3, I see the mag is stored outside of the receiver in the case. This is good. It will take you 1-1.5 seconds to first slide that mag in, then take the upper/lower receiver out and start your assembly.

Don't be so quick to assume. I tried loading the firearm while the barrel was not attached. The unexpended round simply shot forward out of the firearm by the force of the bolt. Without the barrel on the firearm, the cartridge is not in a place to be fired.

From the Clark Case

. The phrase does not demonstrate a clear Legislative intent to deem a firearm loaded no matter how a shell is attached to a firearm; in particular, it does not indicate a clear intent to deem a gun "loaded" when the ammunition, as here, is in a storage compartment which is not equivalent to either a magazine or clip and from which the ammunition cannot be fired.

Despite the ammunition being in a magazine, the ammunition cannot be fired while the firearm is in that configuration.

Now, as you can see I have my magazines stored outside of the magazine well, but it is an interesting concept nonetheless. Without a barrel, the firearm is incapable of being fired.

So does a lower with a loaded magazine, but without any upper on it at all, meet the definition of loaded? Practicality wise, if you didn't want to unload your lower with a Prince50 on it while hunting, could you separate the upper and the lower to make the firearm unloaded and then reattach it the next time you get out of the vehicle? If so, is this any different than taking the barrel off?

[tenpercentfirearms]

I finally got these up on the website. I just sold my last 12" one and need to order some more.

http://www.tenpercentfirearms.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=16_71&products_id=665

[DREADNOUGHT78]

Pretty cool Wes! I like it just hate smooth hand guards do they have a railed version available? I do understand that indexing a freefloat rail on the fly would be a little different but would be cooler!

[tenpercentfirearms]

Pretty cool Wes! I like it just hate smooth hand guards do they have a railed version available? I do understand that indexing a freefloat rail on the fly would be a little different but would be cooler!

I will let them know you want a railed version. It is probably doable with enough thought. However, it might not be practical as this is more of a discreet option and rails aren't as important.