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Does anyone make a 14.5mm (aside of Anzio)?
Also, does anyone have one?
Ammo availability?
Also, does anyone have one?
Ammo availability?
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Originally posted by Lone_Gunman -
never heard of a 14.5mm caliber? -
14.5x114mm Russian. It a heavy MG/anti-material round. Makes the .50BMG look like the 5.56x45 next to a 30/06.
Can't imagine it would be worth shooting until you have at least 2000yds to play with. 1000gr bullet @ 3300-3400fps.Luck favors the prepared.
The original battle plan did not survive initial contact with the enemy.
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Think of it as the Soviet equivalent of .50 BMG...except that it has roughly twice the muzzle energy
Back to OP's question, at .586" diameter I think it would fall under NFA "destructive device", wouldn't it? Unless there's a sporting exemption. You know, for when the dinosaurs come back.Last edited by reidnez; 12-22-2009, 5:02 PM.Believe those who are seeking the truth. Doubt those who find it. -Andre GideComment
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Sounds like an NFA issue to me...Dom
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Actually the 12.7x108mm Russian is equivalent to the .50BMG (12.7x99mm).Luck favors the prepared.
The original battle plan did not survive initial contact with the enemy.
"The things that will destroy America are prosperity at any price, peace at any price, safety first instead of duty first, the love of soft living and the get rich quick theory of life." -Theodore RooseveltComment
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Right, good point. So it's probably closer to our 20mm, then.
Anyway, here's a picture for some reference. If you've held a Garand stripper clip then you'll have a sense of scale. Truly massive.
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The 14.5mm Russian is really a white elephant. USA and NATO decided if they needed something bigger than 12.7mm, they they would step up to 20mm (where you get real RDX payload) and becomes a cannon round. Russia decided they needed an intermediate KE round and developed the 14.5mm which is a HV round with limited payload.Luck favors the prepared.
The original battle plan did not survive initial contact with the enemy.
"The things that will destroy America are prosperity at any price, peace at any price, safety first instead of duty first, the love of soft living and the get rich quick theory of life." -Theodore RooseveltComment
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Awesome info...but can we even buy the rifle, or is it a destructive device? I did find some ammo online for a very modest $35/round.
It does seem to have somewhat limited practicality. You aren't going to kill a tank with it, but it's overkill for most lesser anti-materiel operations where a .50 would do just fine. Not to mention, it's stretching the limits of the term "man-portable" way past ridiculousness. That's probably why you don't see more 20mm rifles being fielded, even though they exist. A solution looking for a problem, perhaps?Last edited by reidnez; 12-22-2009, 5:23 PM.Believe those who are seeking the truth. Doubt those who find it. -Andre GideComment
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Someone jump in if I'm wrong here, but the CA destructive device definition is .60 diameter (which is 15.2 mm or so) or greater, so while it would be a federal DD, the state in theory, should not care on this one not withstanding other restrictions potentially with regards to ammunition or AW laws if applicable. If you jump through the appropriate federal hoops I ~think~ you should be okay.sigpic
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Originally posted by hoffmangOriginally posted by ar15barrelsComment
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OK, CA's Destructive Device regs kick in at .60" so 14.5mm is legal in CA, as long as it legal federally.
14.5mm Russian is considered DD federally since it is non-sporting and over .50". If you wanted to file a Form 1 to make, or Form 4 to buy, you could get federal permission to own one, and it would be legal in CA, no CADOJ Dangerous Weapons permit needed.
Or, you could get the 14.5mm JDJ, which is a necked up .50BMG round, which has a federal DD-exemption, and since it is less than .60", is CA-legal as well. So, since CA banned the .50BMG rifle, why not go bigger?
http://www.sskindustries.com/14_5.htm
Jack
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The ballistics of the Soviet 14.5mm are really impressive and it would make an excellent HTI platform.--BrandoComment
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Originally posted by ar15barrelsIt makes it bigger and longer.
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These are 14's
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