Is a GPU right for me?

[ar15barrels]

I keep hearing about cost as a reason to stick with the antiquated and unreliable DI system, but a custom made Addax GPU doesn't cost much - - if any -- more than a good upper from any manufacturer. It is more expensive than a cheap shirt basic M-4 upper, but who the hell wants one of those on their build?

BS.
Take an Armalite 16" mid-length upper and put a DD rail on it and you have an awesome quality upper for about 2/3 the cost of an Addax GPU upper.

[mds2004]

i've cleaned my saiga the 2 times i've shot it. I really should ignore it.

[pacrimguru]

well, if you do decide to get one, i have an awesome GPU for sale... check the link in my signature.

[Josh3239]

I keep hearing about cost as a reason to stick with the antiquated and unreliable DI system,

Yep, good thing the Israelis over in the sandbox didn't use them and instead stuck with their never ending supply of AKs, Galils, and Uzis for the last 20 something years instead. Oh wait

[PaperPuncher]

I keep hearing about cost as a reason to stick with the antiquated and unreliable DI system, but a custom made Addax GPU doesn't cost much - - if any -- more than a good upper from any manufacturer. It is more expensive than a cheap shirt basic M-4 upper, but who the hell wants one of those on their build?

I am not sure I get how this works/adds up??? If this were the case why is there a cost difference between the Addax DI and GPU uppers. I would think both are of equal quality with the only difference being the gas system operation. Are the DIs that Addax makes sub-par in comparison to the GPUs they make before the gas system is installed?

I was considering purchasing my 5.56 upper from them but if this is the case I would like to know before making the purchase. Can you quantify this statement with some data or pehaps you know of brand or quality of parts Addax uses on their DI builds vs. their GPUs?

Any info would be great. Thanks!

[X-NewYawker]

I'm npot talking about the difference beteween addax DIs and GPU, I mean the difference between GPUs and DIs from different sources. I mean that many of the custom -- custom, not "off the shelf Armalite deals) uppers we're always talking about here cost from $700-a grand, and the Addax ATAC MK-1 GPU in .223, for example, lists for $1149. A couple of hundred bucks for improved cleanliness and reliability doesn't seem out of line.

Plus he's a club member who stands behind his work.

BTW -- the Israelis HATE the M-16. They are FORCED to use our crappy rifles (crappy for use in the SAND, which they have lots of in Israel) because we give them billions in aid, a requirement of which is that buy these lame DI guns from us. Every Israeli soldier I've talked to laments the loss of their AK-actioned Galil in both calibers..

[Addax]

I am not sure I get how this works/adds up??? If this were the case why is there a cost difference between the Addax DI and GPU uppers. I would think both are of equal quality with the only difference being the gas system operation. Are the DIs that Addax makes sub-par in comparison to the GPUs they make before the gas system is installed?

I was considering purchasing my 5.56 upper from them but if this is the case I would like to know before making the purchase. Can you quantify this statement with some data or pehaps you know of brand or quality of parts Addax uses on their DI builds vs. their GPUs?

Any info would be great. Thanks!

The difference in cost is the the piston system over the DI gas block and gas tube. A Piston System is going to cost more than a DI Gas Block and Gas Tube.

Other than the difference in cost of the gas systems, all of our uppers are built with top shelf components, and nothing leaves my shop until it passes my QC and Test Fire Function Test.

[Addax]

BS.
Take an Armalite 16" mid-length upper and put a DD rail on it and you have an awesome quality upper for about 2/3 the cost of an Addax GPU upper.

There is a difference between quality and High Quality...

We strive to build High Quality Upper solutions in both the DI and Gas Piston for the Civilian, Law Enforcement and Military markets.

If people feel that a $355 Armalite 'web special' fits the bill for them, then that is fine, you get what you pay for...

Spec to Spec, my uppers will beat out the Armalite 'Web Special' Upper, and many of our upper solutions are made and rated for Full Auto Use, Abuse, and therefore are built with long term use and durability in mind.

This means we use higher quality components in our Gas Piston and DI uppers, from the barrels, to the rails, to the gas blocks, to the bolt carrier groups.

This does mean that our uppers will cost more than an Armalite 'Web Special' that does not even compare spec. to spec. with our Addax Uppers.

Chris

[PaperPuncher]

The difference in cost is the the piston system over the DI gas block and gas tube. A Piston System is going to cost more than a DI Gas Block and Gas Tube.

Other than the difference in cost of the gas systems, all of our uppers are built with top shelf components, and nothing leaves my shop until it passes my QC and Test Fire Function Test.

This is the answer I was looking for. Parts used for GPUs vs. DI at Addax. It sounds like you build them out of the same parts and the only difference is the operating system. The post lead me to believe I must spend as much on my DI upper as your GPUs cost in order to get something of similar quality which seemed silly since your DI uppers are less than your GPUs and the quality should be exactly the same outside of the gas system.

I have at this point decided on DI. Now just need the cash.

[ar15barrels]

If people feel that a $355 Armalite 'web special' fits the bill for them, then that is fine, you get what you pay for...

I was not talking about an EAGLE web special.
I was talking about a full blown Armalite barreled upper with an Armalite receiver, bolt and carrier as made by LMT and then add a DD rail to it.

[Addax]

I was not talking about an EAGLE web special.
I was talking about a full blown Armalite barreled upper with an Armalite receiver, bolt and carrier as made by LMT and then add a DD rail to it.

Thanks for clarifying.

[Addax]

This is the answer I was looking for. Parts used for GPUs vs. DI at Addax. It sounds like you build them out of the same parts and the only difference is the operating system. The post lead me to believe I must spend as much on my DI upper as your GPUs cost in order to get something of similar quality which seemed silly since your DI uppers are less than your GPUs and the quality should be exactly the same outside of the gas system.

I have at this point decided on DI. Now just need the cash.

Yup, the only difference is going to be Piston System over DI.

I just posted a couple of new DI uppers up on my website, and I plan on posting up a few more later today.

http://www.adxtactical.com/store/pc/showSearchResults.asp?&iPageSize=20&iPageCurrent=1&pageStyle=p&priceFrom=0&priceUntil=9999999&SKU=&order=5&IDBrand=106

[technique]

I was not talking about an EAGLE web special.
I was talking about a full blown Armalite barreled upper with an Armalite receiver, bolt and carrier as made by LMT and then add a DD rail to it.

Personally I would take the GPU over the Armalite.

I wouldn't be caught dead with an Armalite (unless its an AR-10)....
And if I was caught dead with an Armalite, it would probly be the reason I ended up dead.

[Group B]

You better run out to your car and clean the combustion chambers because they are friggin DIRTY.
I guarantee it.

Heh, funny you should mention that.

My first car ('68 BMW 1600-2) was carbureted, and from time to time I used to pour a couple tablespoons of fresh brake fluid down the barrels of the carb, while the engine was running, to help remove some of the carbon from the combustion chambers.