Are you allowed to have a detachable magazine on a semi-auto rifle

[SVPRApps]

The laws are so confusing makes me not want to go out and legally buy a rifle then get slapped with charges/fines later down the road

http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/dwcl/12275.php

On that note, I'm trying to find a saiga 7.62 under $320 but will not get it if it uses those bullet buttons things

[NiteQwill]

You CAN have a detachable magazine if it is featureless (aka: NO evil features).

http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/index.php/Options_for_detachable_magazines

[sytfu_RR]

You can if you build it featureless ( I.E. no pistol grip,flash hider,VFG, or Adjustable stock ) and have detachable mags & use high capacity mags if you owned them prior to 2000. Just follow the Flow Chart. This has been discussed numerous times.

[Quiet]

Detachable magazines in rimfire semi-auto rifles are 100% legal.

Detachable magazines in centerfire semi-auto rifles are legal in "featureless" rifles.

Featureless = does not have any of the features that would classify it as an assault weapon.


Penal Code 12276.1
(a) Notwithstanding Section 12276, "assault weapon" shall also mean any of the following:
(1) A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine and any one of the following:
(A) A pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon.
(B) A thumbhole stock.
(C) A folding or telescoping stock.
(D) A grenade launcher or flare launcher.
(E) A flash suppressor.
(F) A forward pistol grip.
(2) A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has a fixed magazine with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds.
(3) A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has an overall length of less than 30 inches.

[Gofasterdammit]

For the Saiga you do not need a magazine lock device. They are technically a sporting rifle. If you decide to convert it then you will need a mag lock if you run a pistol grip. You should be able to find a used, unconverted Saiga for $350-$400.

[Gofasterdammit]

Wow in the time it took me to type my response on my iPhone there were already 3 responses.

[tpc13]

Kalifornia laws are stupid in the first place. You can use deteach mags in guns such as Mini 14, Mini 30, Su16-Ca and a few others as long as their 10 rds and you do not convert it into an assault weapon. No pistol grip seems to be the question everyone is asking these days.

[bigcalidave]

If you can use detachable mags, you can use detachable high capacity mags tpc. The ONLY time you can't have a high capacity magazine is if it is fixed.

[brianm767]

And some thing to consider is what California considers a "Detachable Magazine" and basically it's a mag that is removable without the use of a tool, so when you install a bullet button or some thing similar, the magazine is still removable, but it takes a tool to remove it, and that doesn't mean you have to break out the tool box and start tearing down the rifle, you just use a small tool, ergo bullet tip, Allen wrench or any thing small enough to slip inside a little hole and press in a button, and the mag drops out, woo hoo, big deal, so instead of your finger, you use the tip of a bullet, I'm sure we can all see how that makes a weapon, much more safe. got to love California.

[Greg-Dawg]

Read the Flowchart and live with it.

That's how it is here in beautiful Kali.

[bigcalidave]

New avatar greg? nice.

[Rob454]

Kalifornia laws are stupid in the first place. You can use deteach mags in guns such as Mini 14, Mini 30, Su16-Ca and a few others as long as their 10 rds or you owned 30 round capacity mags BEFORE 2000 and you do not convert it into an assault weapon. No pistol grip seems to be the question everyone is asking these days.

Fixed it for ya
The thing that you cant have is pistol grips front hand pistol frip flash supressor.
if youhave a featureless rifle like a Saiga or a M14 Mini 14 style in its over the counter "stock" configuration you can have 10 rond 20 round and 30 round mags. The 20-30 round you can use and own as long as you owned them before year 2000 and the 10 round you can buy OTC for any pistol or gun in california.
I rather have a detachable mag rifle than a pinned one with "evil features"

[johnrunner89]

If you can use detachable mags, you can use detachable high capacity mags tpc. The ONLY time you can't have a high capacity magazine is if it is fixed.

What law says this?

[Quiet]

What law says this?

PC 12276.1(a)(2)

Penal Code 12276.1
(a) Notwithstanding Section 12276, "assault weapon" shall also mean any of the following:
(1) A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine and any one of the following:
(A) A pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon.
(B) A thumbhole stock.
(C) A folding or telescoping stock.
(D) A grenade launcher or flare launcher.
(E) A flash suppressor.
(F) A forward pistol grip.
(2) A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has a fixed magazine with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds.
(3) A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has an overall length of less than 30 inches.

[Technical Ted]

What law says this?

12276.1(a)(2) http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/dwcl/12275.php

12276.1. (a) Notwithstanding Section 12276, "assault weapon" shall also mean any of the following:...(2) A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has a fixed magazine with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds.

Nothing restricting the use of legally owned "detachable" magazines with a capacity of more than 10 rounds.